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Anything that depends on Silicon right now is heavily warped. For example my GPU used is seemly now more valuable than I paid for it new, I will soon attempt t

Anything that depends on Silicon right now is heavily warped. For example my GPU used is seemly now more valuable than I paid for it new, I will soon attempt to sell it. Meanwhile new GPUs area crazy expensive too, people like to blame miners but even GPUs terrible for mining are crazy expensive, I actually then considered mining to pay a new GPU, only to find out that mining is not being too profitable either, the most profitable GPU I could find visiting mining calculators would be whatever one in my country would take me 2 YEARS to pay off, so I doubt miners are actually that hot for GPUs... I also need a SSD ( don't have any, I still use HDDs), found out my mobo has poor suport for one. Calculated price for new computer assembled from parts, found out it is not even POSSIBLE to build one, a lot of parts are 100% out of stock, for example every single website I entered has mobos with AMD X570 chipsets sold out, sound cards, even crap 5 USD ones to plug on USB? sold out. SSDs bigger than 500gb? Sold out. GPUs? Mostly sold out excepting really crap ones (those tiny boards that fit in a 1x slot) or really good ones (those that cost as much as a motorcycle). CPUs? A bunch of them sold out too, one I actually saw with plenty of stock is EPYC 7742 that has the same price as a SUV here O.o (I am not even sure what someone would use that CPU for... seriously what you do with 128 threads???) Also my wife wanted a TV (we didn't had one, we were using a borrowed one). We visited a lot of stores before we found one in stock, and when we found it and purchased it, it triggered multiple stores from the same franchise to start to angrily message each other arguing about who should have the last pieces in their storefront...

traceddd 5y ago
I agree it’s shortages and not really miners to primarily blame for the GPU issues… but the type of mining you are doing is not the same as professional miners. There is tons of demand.
gigel82 5y ago
GPUs are bad, CPUs are getting better, but the rest (except for RAM during mid-2020) are in plenty supply... I'm also looking for a SSD and there's quite a few options going on special (well below MSRP) these days. I'm waiting for Black Friday to pull the trigger, but maybe I shouldn't if things continue going this route. FWIW, I just extended the lease on my Leaf for the 2nd 6-month term because there is simply no new Leaf in stock anywhere within 100 miles of Seattle; at this rate, I might as well buy it out (even though when I got, I negotiated for a great monthly rate and didn't care about the residual).
- sbierwagen 5y ago
  With current market conditions, why would a retailer have a Black Friday event? Print advertising flyers that say "come look at our empty shelves"?
  - eru 5y ago
    It's customary to have those events. You'd have to look at the actual discounts they give: if they are small enough, they might just be equivalent to those flyers you mentioned. (Though in a well functioning market, we shouldn't see empty shelves. We should just see higher prices. And if you raise prices enough, you can just drop them a bit for a promotion.)
    - ericbarrett 5y ago
      Also, many times the Black Friday "deals" are special SKUs made specifically for the event. Notoriously, TVs.
bentcorner 5y ago
I realize this is just an anecdote, but I replaced the motherboard for my PC (an HP Z420) and it was dirt cheap IMO ($50). I have no idea what a fair market price for it is but it's perfectly reasonable. You can find tons of similar models like my PC for sale on ebay for dirty cheap and they are perfectly acceptable for home use. No, they will not sip power like an M1 or pair well with a RTX 3090 but they will do everything else just fine. That said, I think it's only because the demand hasn't reached this low yet. But there's still a fair amount of supply left and it's a mixed blessing that the last few years hasn't seen drastic CPU performance gains that hasn't yet been stripped away by software, so anything even a decade old could be suitable, depending on your use case.
kayoone 5y ago
I bought a used Vega56 in 2019 for 180 Eur and just sold it for over 600, got a used 2070S for that money. Thankfully CPU prices etc seemed quite ok so I finally upgraded to a Ryzen system with a somewhat up to date GPU. Had no issues with out of stock parts though, bought Motherboard, CPU, RAM, SSD new for reasonable prices.

traceddd 5y ago

I agree it’s shortages and not really miners to primarily blame for the GPU issues… but the type of mining you are doing is not the same as professional miners. There is tons of demand.

gigel82 5y ago

GPUs are bad, CPUs are getting better, but the rest (except for RAM during mid-2020) are in plenty supply... I'm also looking for a SSD and there's quite a few options going on special (well below MSRP) these days. I'm waiting for Black Friday to pull the trigger, but maybe I shouldn't if things continue going this route. FWIW, I just extended the lease on my Leaf for the 2nd 6-month term because there is simply no new Leaf in stock anywhere within 100 miles of Seattle; at this rate, I might as well buy it out (even though when I got, I negotiated for a great monthly rate and didn't care about the residual).

sbierwagen 5y ago
With current market conditions, why would a retailer have a Black Friday event? Print advertising flyers that say "come look at our empty shelves"?
- eru 5y ago
  It's customary to have those events. You'd have to look at the actual discounts they give: if they are small enough, they might just be equivalent to those flyers you mentioned. (Though in a well functioning market, we shouldn't see empty shelves. We should just see higher prices. And if you raise prices enough, you can just drop them a bit for a promotion.)
  - ericbarrett 5y ago
    Also, many times the Black Friday "deals" are special SKUs made specifically for the event. Notoriously, TVs.

bentcorner 5y ago

I realize this is just an anecdote, but I replaced the motherboard for my PC (an HP Z420) and it was dirt cheap IMO ($50). I have no idea what a fair market price for it is but it's perfectly reasonable. You can find tons of similar models like my PC for sale on ebay for dirty cheap and they are perfectly acceptable for home use. No, they will not sip power like an M1 or pair well with a RTX 3090 but they will do everything else just fine. That said, I think it's only because the demand hasn't reached this low yet. But there's still a fair amount of supply left and it's a mixed blessing that the last few years hasn't seen drastic CPU performance gains that hasn't yet been stripped away by software, so anything even a decade old could be suitable, depending on your use case.

kayoone 5y ago

I bought a used Vega56 in 2019 for 180 Eur and just sold it for over 600, got a used 2070S for that money. Thankfully CPU prices etc seemed quite ok so I finally upgraded to a Ryzen system with a somewhat up to date GPU. Had no issues with out of stock parts though, bought Motherboard, CPU, RAM, SSD new for reasonable prices.