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Downvotes on Stack Overflow/Exchange require users to meet a reputation threshold (much like HN) and each downvote removes 1 reputation from the user that gives
by daveoc64 5y ago
Downvotes on Stack Overflow/Exchange require users to meet a reputation threshold (much like HN) and each downvote removes 1 reputation from the user that gives the downvote.
Dislikes on YouTube and similar platforms don't have any cost or barrier to entry.
- suyash 5y agobut everyone can still the the count - that is the main point here
- nyxaiur 5y agoAnd the point of the comment above yours is that public voting systems are easily manipulated and you should always take them with a grain of salt. most people can't or don't know how to do that.
- daveoc64 5y agoEveryone can see the count on Stack Overflow, but there are several mechanisms in place to protect that count from all sorts of abuse (bots, tactical voting, second accounts etc.). The same is simply not true of YouTube or any other kind of social media upvote/downvote system - anyone can sign up for an account, and their votes immediately count and have equal weighting. The same is not true of Stack Exchange or HN, where you have to put a lot of effort in with a community to be able to downvote something.
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago> The same is simply not true of YouTube or any other kind of social media upvote/downvote system - anyone can sign up for an account, and their votes immediately count and have equal weighting. I don't think this is true for YouTube - you need a Google account, and you can't create a Google account without verifying your phone number. (Unless you can create numerous accounts with one phone number? But that seems like an easy loophole to close.)
- mywittyname 5y agoI have multiple Google accounts on one phone number. I'd probably leave google if that limitation were put in place.
- Tijdreiziger 5y agoA limitation of, say, 10 accounts for one phone number doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
- ziml77 5y agoGoogle does let you create multiple accounts with a single phone number. There's legitimate reasons to have multiple email addresses. I have a handful of different ones that I use for different identities I have online.
- peeters 5y agoThat's not actually true. There's a reputation threshold (1000) to see how many downvotes the post has: https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/established-user https://stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/established-user. Without that privilege one can only see the net votes. I've argued against it in the past (since it's very important context to any reader) but to no avail. An upvote and a downvote rarely cancel each other out. They have different units and shouldn't be summed together. A score of 25 could mean the answer is perfect but has only seen moderate traffic, or incredibly dangerous but has seen high traffic. Here's a good list of controversial answers on SO: https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/466/most-controversial-posts-on-the-site https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/466/most-.... They would mostly look like great answers from the net score.
- jonnycomputer 5y agoI wish they'd cost reputation here too. Behavioral experiment after experiment has show people will engage in costly punishment to maintain norms, so don't need to worry about under-downvoting. But enabling downvoting to be costless (and anonymous) does have downsides.
- notsureaboutpg 5y ago>But enabling downvoting to be costless (and anonymous) does have downsides. What downsides? Why can't we just say we don't like what we don't like?