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The successor to JPEG is going to be JPEG XL (.jxl) https://jpegxl.info/ https://jpegxl.info/

by yboris 5y ago

mixmastamyk 5y ago
What about webp, avif, and the like?
- ksec 5y ago
  WebP hasn't shown any significant advantage in real world test, and AVIF only wins in low bpp usage with a huge trade off on encode and decode speed. It is listed in the JPEG XL comparison table.
  - a_e_k 5y ago
    The interesting thing to me is that compared to WebP and AVIF, JPEG XL is the only one that isn't just largely based on a video codec's I-frame compression.
  - jeroenhd 5y ago
    Interesting, most websites that convert user media to WebP load quite fast for me whereas conversions to JPEG are fast but still a bit slower/lower quality in my experience. WebP suffers from lack of support in outdated browsers, but that's the only problem I've found with it. AVIF is kind of a silly format, but for some use cases it works quite well. JPEG XL has very little tool support, isn't (as) free as the alternatives and browser support is practically non-existent. Nobody wants to adopt the format either, because the JPEG group made the same problem Nintendo made when naming the Wii U: JPEG XL sounds like a JPEG file with something special going on inside, while in fact it's actually a completely new format.
ksec 5y ago
Still waiting for browser and industry wide support. So far no one seems to care much.
- yboris 5y ago
  Not true: https://caniuse.com/?search=jxl https://caniuse.com/?search=jxl It's in Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Opera behind flags - works great!
  - ksec 5y ago
    It is behind a flag, with no time table when it will be officially supported. And no company ( apart from Facebook ) came up and said we will use it as long as browser supports it. Most are still in the AVIF camp.
    - yboris 5y ago
      That's awesome that Facebook is supporting it! https://jpegxl.io/tutorials/facebook/#facebookjxlsupport https://jpegxl.io/tutorials/facebook/#facebookjxlsupport > [as of] the 8th of November 2021, all JPEG XL files were accepted ... Facebook offers full JPEG XL support
    - jug 5y ago
      It’s unfortunate they spent time to get AVIF implemented right before JPEG XL. JXL is a more complete image format rather than a keyframe of AV1 video. Some media format cruft is amounting in web browsers but JXL of all things should ironically really be in there.

The successor to JPEG is going to be JPEG XL (.jxl) https://jpegxl.info/ https://jpegxl.info/

by yboris 5y ago

The successor to JPEG is going to be JPEG XL (.jxl) https://jpegxl.info/ https://jpegxl.info/

mixmastamyk 5y ago

What about webp, avif, and the like?

ksec 5y ago
WebP hasn't shown any significant advantage in real world test, and AVIF only wins in low bpp usage with a huge trade off on encode and decode speed. It is listed in the JPEG XL comparison table.
- a_e_k 5y ago
  The interesting thing to me is that compared to WebP and AVIF, JPEG XL is the only one that isn't just largely based on a video codec's I-frame compression.
- jeroenhd 5y ago
  Interesting, most websites that convert user media to WebP load quite fast for me whereas conversions to JPEG are fast but still a bit slower/lower quality in my experience. WebP suffers from lack of support in outdated browsers, but that's the only problem I've found with it. AVIF is kind of a silly format, but for some use cases it works quite well. JPEG XL has very little tool support, isn't (as) free as the alternatives and browser support is practically non-existent. Nobody wants to adopt the format either, because the JPEG group made the same problem Nintendo made when naming the Wii U: JPEG XL sounds like a JPEG file with something special going on inside, while in fact it's actually a completely new format.

ksec 5y ago

Still waiting for browser and industry wide support. So far no one seems to care much.

yboris 5y ago
Not true: https://caniuse.com/?search=jxl https://caniuse.com/?search=jxl It's in Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Opera behind flags - works great!
- ksec 5y ago
  It is behind a flag, with no time table when it will be officially supported. And no company ( apart from Facebook ) came up and said we will use it as long as browser supports it. Most are still in the AVIF camp.
  - yboris 5y ago
    That's awesome that Facebook is supporting it! https://jpegxl.io/tutorials/facebook/#facebookjxlsupport https://jpegxl.io/tutorials/facebook/#facebookjxlsupport > [as of] the 8th of November 2021, all JPEG XL files were accepted ... Facebook offers full JPEG XL support
  - jug 5y ago
    It’s unfortunate they spent time to get AVIF implemented right before JPEG XL. JXL is a more complete image format rather than a keyframe of AV1 video. Some media format cruft is amounting in web browsers but JXL of all things should ironically really be in there.