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Except they considered the change years before Biden was president: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-in

Except they considered the change years before Biden was president: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-attack-mob-review-bomb-creator-insider https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-a... This Trump rally from The Hill, where he tells his followers to get the vaccine that he got, garnered 1.5k likes and 1.3k dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huQdxDnQkac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huQdxDnQkac Here Trump hints at a 2024 run on the Today show, but it has more likes than dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7MWvwTOzw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7MWvwTOzw Here a Fox affiliate covers a recent Trump rally, but it has 10 times more likes vs dislikes! Didn't anyone tell them about the grand Youtube conspiracy?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi4niom7se8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi4niom7se8 Does that fit your narrative or no?

BitwiseFool 5y ago
I don't think the GP's narrative was that this exclusively happens to the Democrats. Just that it happens way more on the current White House's videos than it did on the last administration's. Plucking examples where Republican videos were downvoted intensely does not refute an argument the OP wasn't making in the first place.
- LarrySellers 5y ago
  Sure, it's easy to find examples of dislike brigades for the current White House channel: https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_deletes_portion_of_dislikes_from_biden/gk51weq/?context=3 https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_de... I was just wondering if there was any evidence that the government was involved in UI change. There isn't.
pdq 5y ago
I believe he's referring to the other party, with videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcRVR63dnDA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcRVR63dnDA And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYl5C9PufY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYl5C9PufY
- LarrySellers 5y ago
  Good point, there's clearly no conspiracy against the right. ...but the recent video of Biden getting sworn in has more likes than dislikes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2305DGsceE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2305DGsceE He's been president for nearly a year. Youtube is really bad at this conspiracy stuff I guess.
  - klipklop 5y ago
    I do believe political pressure is what is partially guiding this move.
    - LarrySellers 5y ago
      Do you have any evidence at all?
      - klipklop 5y ago
        Can only speculate based on the various complaints the party had about all the downvotes the WH channel gets. Do you think anybody below the VP level of YouTube would be told? Guess what, no google employee talked about PRISM either.
        LarrySellers 5y ago
        Agreed, you have no evidence for your claim, so it can be dismissed entirely.
        klipklop 5y ago
        Yes we should totally take google at their word when they say it's not politically motivated. They can say whatever reasoning they want, that does not necessarily make it true. Google has a well defined history of lying publicly or hiding the things they do. Dragonfly, PRISM... These things take brave whistle blowers that have their lives ruined to reveal. If I said, "I am going to eat this fried twinkie because it is for my health" would you take that as a factual statement (that twinkies are healthy) just because some PR department repeated it on my behalf? Google saying they are not doing this on behalf of the current administration means nothing. Nobody reasonable expect them to really be honest with the public/users anymore.
klipklop 5y ago
I am alluding to the current party in the White House that gets every video downvoted into oblivion. Some sites accused YouTube of deleting the downvotes. Now they are giving up and just hiding them now.
- Spivak 5y ago
  Wait, so should platforms do nothing against creators that are brigaded and review bombed? A video being organically downvoted to oblivion is way different than a bunch of users organizing on 4chan, Reddit, or being directed by their favorite parasocial media personality to go bomb a video/product. If I was YT I wouldn't want to bother policing this crap and just take away all the incentive to do it in the first place.
- LarrySellers 5y ago
  Is there any evidence that the government pressured YouTube into making this change? Or this is just blind speculation on your part? Here's evidence that the videos are subject to organized brigades: https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_deletes_portion_of_dislikes_from_biden/gk51weq/?context=3 https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_de...
  - lovethyenemy 5y ago
    It's just blind speculation. There is absolutely no historical precedent of Big Tech corporations implementing censorship controls at the behest of governments. Anyone claiming otherwise is spreading misinformation and should be censored.
    - goostavos 5y ago
      Absolutely. It's a matter of public health.
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - adamiscool8 5y ago

BitwiseFool 5y ago

I don't think the GP's narrative was that this exclusively happens to the Democrats. Just that it happens way more on the current White House's videos than it did on the last administration's. Plucking examples where Republican videos were downvoted intensely does not refute an argument the OP wasn't making in the first place.

LarrySellers 5y ago
Sure, it's easy to find examples of dislike brigades for the current White House channel: https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_deletes_portion_of_dislikes_from_biden/gk51weq/?context=3 https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_de... I was just wondering if there was any evidence that the government was involved in UI change. There isn't.

pdq 5y ago

I believe he's referring to the other party, with videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcRVR63dnDA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcRVR63dnDA And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYl5C9PufY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYl5C9PufY

LarrySellers 5y ago
Good point, there's clearly no conspiracy against the right. ...but the recent video of Biden getting sworn in has more likes than dislikes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2305DGsceE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2305DGsceE He's been president for nearly a year. Youtube is really bad at this conspiracy stuff I guess.
- klipklop 5y ago
  I do believe political pressure is what is partially guiding this move.
  - LarrySellers 5y ago
    Do you have any evidence at all?
    - klipklop 5y ago
      Can only speculate based on the various complaints the party had about all the downvotes the WH channel gets. Do you think anybody below the VP level of YouTube would be told? Guess what, no google employee talked about PRISM either.
      - LarrySellers 5y ago
        Agreed, you have no evidence for your claim, so it can be dismissed entirely.
        klipklop 5y ago
        Yes we should totally take google at their word when they say it's not politically motivated. They can say whatever reasoning they want, that does not necessarily make it true. Google has a well defined history of lying publicly or hiding the things they do. Dragonfly, PRISM... These things take brave whistle blowers that have their lives ruined to reveal. If I said, "I am going to eat this fried twinkie because it is for my health" would you take that as a factual statement (that twinkies are healthy) just because some PR department repeated it on my behalf? Google saying they are not doing this on behalf of the current administration means nothing. Nobody reasonable expect them to really be honest with the public/users anymore.

klipklop 5y ago

I am alluding to the current party in the White House that gets every video downvoted into oblivion. Some sites accused YouTube of deleting the downvotes. Now they are giving up and just hiding them now.

Spivak 5y ago
Wait, so should platforms do nothing against creators that are brigaded and review bombed? A video being organically downvoted to oblivion is way different than a bunch of users organizing on 4chan, Reddit, or being directed by their favorite parasocial media personality to go bomb a video/product. If I was YT I wouldn't want to bother policing this crap and just take away all the incentive to do it in the first place.
LarrySellers 5y ago
Is there any evidence that the government pressured YouTube into making this change? Or this is just blind speculation on your part? Here's evidence that the videos are subject to organized brigades: https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_deletes_portion_of_dislikes_from_biden/gk51weq/?context=3 https://libredd.it/r/Conservative/comments/l2d9ma/youtube_de...
- lovethyenemy 5y ago
  It's just blind speculation. There is absolutely no historical precedent of Big Tech corporations implementing censorship controls at the behest of governments. Anyone claiming otherwise is spreading misinformation and should be censored.
  - goostavos 5y ago
    Absolutely. It's a matter of public health.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- adamiscool8 5y ago