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Right, I'm aware it uses MMS; my other comment mentions this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29176484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29176484 Wheth
by ryukafalz 5y ago
Right, I'm aware it uses MMS; my other comment mentions this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29176484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29176484
Whether it's SMS or MMS on the backend doesn't matter to me as a user, it's still a fundamental enough feature of a mobile phone for me that I can't consider one without it.
- selfhoster11 5y agoSending SMS basically comes free with a mobile plan in my country. MMS messages still cost just as much as 20 years ago (which is to say, they are priced unrealistically).
- ryukafalz 5y agoIt's reversed in the US; MMS is typically free on even the cheapest plans here, data is metered.
- pjmlp 5y agoExcept the little detail that MMS pays per amount of recipients.
- ryukafalz 5y agoIn Europe, maybe. Typically not here in the US.
- hnlmorg 5y agoMudita is a European company though
- ryukafalz 5y agoA European company selling their product to US customers, with (as I understand it nontrivial) US regulatory certifications. They clearly have the US market in mind in addition to the European market.
- hnlmorg 5y agoThe key part there is "in addition". The US in addition to the rest of the world. You might have a booming tech industry yourselves that put America's interests first -- and that is absolutely fine for American companies to do -- but please don't assume that every other company in the world should too. If a European company wants to put a lower priority on implementing MMS knowing that it's both non-trivial and non-free in most of the world -- not least of all their own country -- then I that's a perfectly reasonably thing for them to do.
- ryukafalz 5y agoI mean yes, it's perfectly fine and valid for them to make that tradeoff. I just think it's also reasonable to make potential American customers aware of that tradeoff though, because just about everyone I know of here would consider that a dealbreaker, and they might not realize it otherwise until they've already bought the phone and started losing messages (which can be hard to detect). Hence my post.
- hnlmorg 5y agoThe thing is, people had. The majority of the conversation was yourself arguing that their decision is wrong because "America". At times it felt like there was little appreciation from your part that this isn't an American company and their target demographic is going to be much wider than just America.