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The "at your own peril" strategy is effective for some. Or go the panopticon route: "I have software on the router that can see everything you do, but I don't

The "at your own peril" strategy is effective for some. Or go the panopticon route: "I have software on the router that can see everything you do, but I don't usually look at it."

noway421 5y ago
Unless you're running a MITM proxy for SSL traffic with root certificates installed on the home devices, this statement can not be true. And if you're running such a proxy, you would need to have a guest WiFi for people coming into the house who would like to use internet without installing the certificate. At that point, circumventing the tracking is the matter of connecting to the guest WiFi.
thealistra 5y ago
This sounds like fueling anxiety in the kids that they are being watched. Doesn’t sound okay
- ryanianian 5y ago
  > kids that they are being watched They already are though. Usually by tech companies without the kid's best interests at heart. Tailor it to the kid. Certain amounts of anxiety in developing minors around surveillance seem healthy, especially given the risks associated with unfettered access to the dangerous fire-hose that is the internet which itself has tracking at every corner.
  - Hackbraten 5y ago
    Still, lying to your kids is not ok. If you don’t have software on your router that tracks everything they do, don’t pretend that you have. Being surveilled is a feeling that sticks. Being tricked, too. Don’t assume your kids will forget eventually.
- gwright 5y ago
  > kids that they are being watched Not sure that "kids" is well defined here. But it seems completely normal that "kids" would be watched by their parents. I realize that the appropriate nature of "watching" is going to change with the age of the "kid", but oversight and watchfulness by a parent shouldn't be viewed as inherently problematic.
nanidin 5y ago
16 year old me bypassed this and all other monitoring by running a patch cable from the cable modem directly to my machine when up to shenanigans.

The "at your own peril" strategy is effective for some. Or go the panopticon route: "I have software on the router that can see everything you do, but I don't usually look at it."

noway421 5y ago

Unless you're running a MITM proxy for SSL traffic with root certificates installed on the home devices, this statement can not be true. And if you're running such a proxy, you would need to have a guest WiFi for people coming into the house who would like to use internet without installing the certificate. At that point, circumventing the tracking is the matter of connecting to the guest WiFi.

thealistra 5y ago

This sounds like fueling anxiety in the kids that they are being watched. Doesn’t sound okay

ryanianian 5y ago
> kids that they are being watched They already are though. Usually by tech companies without the kid's best interests at heart. Tailor it to the kid. Certain amounts of anxiety in developing minors around surveillance seem healthy, especially given the risks associated with unfettered access to the dangerous fire-hose that is the internet which itself has tracking at every corner.
- Hackbraten 5y ago
  Still, lying to your kids is not ok. If you don’t have software on your router that tracks everything they do, don’t pretend that you have. Being surveilled is a feeling that sticks. Being tricked, too. Don’t assume your kids will forget eventually.
gwright 5y ago
> kids that they are being watched Not sure that "kids" is well defined here. But it seems completely normal that "kids" would be watched by their parents. I realize that the appropriate nature of "watching" is going to change with the age of the "kid", but oversight and watchfulness by a parent shouldn't be viewed as inherently problematic.

nanidin 5y ago

16 year old me bypassed this and all other monitoring by running a patch cable from the cable modem directly to my machine when up to shenanigans.