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And you've deftly moved past the question "How do you determine if the police are being successful?" Is your metric only homicide statistics? geofft commented
by eesmith 5y ago
And you've deftly moved past the question "How do you determine if the police are being successful?"
Is your metric only homicide statistics?
geofft commented "police refusing to take police reports or saying that something is a civil matter". My examples were meant to reinforce that issue, where crime statistics place far less weight on theft of services than theft of property, even when the monetary amounts involved are similar.
FWIW, wage theft isn't only a corporate crime. If I promise to pay someone to mow my lawn, and he does it, and I don't pay him (perhaps threatening to call the police because I suspect he's an immigrant without work papers), then that's also wage theft, even though I am not a corporation.
- chuckee 5y agoDirectly addressing a claim made in the post I replied to (police manipulation/bias of statistics) is not "moving past" anything. You're welcome to continue onto ever more abstract or systemic claims of racism and bias, but please don't begrudge me pointing out when some of the stepping stones crumble along the way.
- eesmith 5y agoYou wrote "One could compare police statistics with victim surveys". On could also compare other statistics, and show that police are over-funded compared to other sorts of enforcement agencies. The very act of picking which statistics to use is itself biased. Simply pointing to NCVS is not going to be convincing. Which numbers should we look at? What correlations should we draw? How should we understand the biases in the interpretation? What alternative explanations are there for whatever it is you haven't actually said? Without pointers to what what your actual point is, I figured it was just as appropriate to point out how your foundation is itself crumbled.