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Seems to me that someone who is deeply conservative and cares about Constitution, Rule of Law etc. would be very concerned that Trump on Jan. 5 tried to push hi
by jollybean 5y ago
Seems to me that someone who is deeply conservative and cares about Constitution, Rule of Law etc. would be very concerned that Trump on Jan. 5 tried to push his VP to throw an election and also concerned that the President of the US would lie so flagrantly in his attempts to stay in office.
Seems to me that people who actually cared about Social Justice would contemplate the complexity and nuance in all of this policing, that much of the issues are general/social issues not policing, that reducing policing is risky and has apparently caused a lot of harm to vulnerable communities, and that working class White people, who have been 'at the bottom' and basically serfs for their entire family history, should be objects of sympathy not hatred. And, that even if we respect power imbalances, bigotry can be had by 'all sides', and a lot of the rhetoric from supposed 'anti racists' seem quite bigoted.
I think that these warring tribes are not actually political in the classical sense, I think there is something else going on, and those are the camps/flags that they ended up under, and that classical political orientation actually doesn't really describe what is going on.
Liberals are not Liberals or even Left, they seem to have a kind of post-modern, intellectual, ideological kind of anger. Trumpers are neither Conservative nor conservative, more like angry loud nationalists.
I think both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney represent more or less traditional notions of Left/Right (roughly of course).
But Clintons/Obamas are at war with the far left (you can see this infighting between camps at NY Times), and the right is at war with itself vis-a-vis traditional Republicans and The Trumpers.
If you use the Wayback Machine to look at CNN from 2001 you'll notice that it seems downright tame. And since 2016, they've become even worse for editorializing. The entire press landscape has become tilted, I don't even trust PBS/NPR anymore, and I also think social media and the internet has really inflamed a lot of people.
Since Trump is gone and COVID is passing a little bit, I do wonder if things will settle down maybe a little bit.