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I think there should be an introduction to vaccines in highschool biology. We have known for several decades that people fear shots and that political upstarts

I think there should be an introduction to vaccines in highschool biology. We have known for several decades that people fear shots and that political upstarts will take advantage of that. My own conclusion is we need the general population to have fundamental understanding of what a vaccine is. And that microchips need energy sources.

peteradio 5y ago
Do you honestly think that large proportions of people pushing back against the covid vaccine mandates believe the 5g shit?
- angelzen 5y ago
  Possibly the OP does believe that. I used to live in that bubble. There is an undercurrent in US media and academia that "flyover country" is populated by inbred primitives clinging to obsolete superstition and impervious to reason and science. Perhaps thank Iraq war era Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert for kickstarting the phenomenon.
- catlikesshrimp 5y ago
  O M G. By commenting that for a circuit to work it needs an energy source, I supposed you would understand that there is no such thing in vaccines. But the general population has no idea about this because it isn't taught in school. They just have facebook and whatsapp fakenews. That's why I propose the topic be included in education curriculum, it has been causing problems for some decades
giga_chad 5y ago
The definition of what a vaccine is just changed this year though. This talk about "microchips" is the definition of misinformation, I've never seen anyone seriously propose that, it's only used to paint anyone who has any kind of doubt about the "vaccines" and "vaccine mandates" as a crazy person.
- catlikesshrimp 5y ago
  The definition of vaccine hasn't changed much. You are still inducing specific inmunity to some antigens. Only now you can inject coding instead of or in addition to antigens. Saying people are crazy solves no problem. If you think you are right then you have a responsibility to educate them. Casting stones at others won't end well.
native_samples 5y ago
High school biology covers that and many other relevant things? Maybe not where you grew up but it did for me. Basic immunology was covered too - what are anti-bodies, T cells, B cells. This was 20 years ago. Indeed education is not going to help you. One of the big problems with the credibility of COVID experts is the frequency with which they contradict high school level biology without explanation. The claims that natural immunity is worse than vaccination are quite obviously in conflict with high school level biology, for example. The claim that massive scale testing programmes have ~no false positives is likewise going to be hard to accept for anyone who struggled to make basic experiments work in high school labs.
- catlikesshrimp 5y ago
  I hear you with the no false positives statement, which I haven't personally encountered, but still However, if misinformation is convincing people who are supposed to be educated, they weren't properly educated to start. In short: It is not enough.

peteradio 5y ago

Do you honestly think that large proportions of people pushing back against the covid vaccine mandates believe the 5g shit?

angelzen 5y ago
Possibly the OP does believe that. I used to live in that bubble. There is an undercurrent in US media and academia that "flyover country" is populated by inbred primitives clinging to obsolete superstition and impervious to reason and science. Perhaps thank Iraq war era Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert for kickstarting the phenomenon.
catlikesshrimp 5y ago
O M G. By commenting that for a circuit to work it needs an energy source, I supposed you would understand that there is no such thing in vaccines. But the general population has no idea about this because it isn't taught in school. They just have facebook and whatsapp fakenews. That's why I propose the topic be included in education curriculum, it has been causing problems for some decades

giga_chad 5y ago

The definition of what a vaccine is just changed this year though. This talk about "microchips" is the definition of misinformation, I've never seen anyone seriously propose that, it's only used to paint anyone who has any kind of doubt about the "vaccines" and "vaccine mandates" as a crazy person.

catlikesshrimp 5y ago
The definition of vaccine hasn't changed much. You are still inducing specific inmunity to some antigens. Only now you can inject coding instead of or in addition to antigens. Saying people are crazy solves no problem. If you think you are right then you have a responsibility to educate them. Casting stones at others won't end well.

native_samples 5y ago

High school biology covers that and many other relevant things? Maybe not where you grew up but it did for me. Basic immunology was covered too - what are anti-bodies, T cells, B cells. This was 20 years ago. Indeed education is not going to help you. One of the big problems with the credibility of COVID experts is the frequency with which they contradict high school level biology without explanation. The claims that natural immunity is worse than vaccination are quite obviously in conflict with high school level biology, for example. The claim that massive scale testing programmes have ~no false positives is likewise going to be hard to accept for anyone who struggled to make basic experiments work in high school labs.

catlikesshrimp 5y ago
I hear you with the no false positives statement, which I haven't personally encountered, but still However, if misinformation is convincing people who are supposed to be educated, they weren't properly educated to start. In short: It is not enough.