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Rows.com – Spreadsheet that supports external API integration and collaboration
- Timothycquinn 5y agoLove the idea of multiple tables in one view, rather than having to switch between tabs.
- porker 5y agoRows looks cool, but nowhere does it answer: how many rows can a sheet cope with?
- ordpedev 5y ago20000 rows (https://rows.com/docs/platform-limits#tables https://rows.com/docs/platform-limits#tables).
- henriquecruz 5y agoright now it is 20k rows and 104 cols (so ~2M cells). But that's changing soon to 5-10M.
- polskibus 5y ago20k rows to 10M rows or 2M cells to 10M cells?
- henrique_cruz 5y agoin the next quarter or so, to 5-10M cells
- throwaway1777 5y agoSo airtable is google and this is yahoo?
- anaganisk 5y agoI dont think Airtable was ever bought by google, but i do remember google launched a competitor. Neither Rows is by Yahoo.
- jacobmischka 5y agoI don't have much of an opinion on the product, it seems fine, but I greatly enjoyed the cute little spreadsheet styling on the pricing table[1], it actually made me laugh. Good design, nice work. [1]: https://rows.com/pricing https://rows.com/pricing
- henriquecruz 5y agoeheh thanks! Glad you liked the spreadsheet touch.
- ModernMech 5y agoI’m surprised at the top tier $249 per month plan, you still only allow 1GB max file size. Is this a technical limitation?
- henriquecruz 5y agofor now yes. 1GB of cells with numbers, text and json still gives you a lot of room for millions of cells. We'll upgrade this throughout 2022 though.
- JoBrad 5y agoThat page renders quite well on mobile, too. Not difficult, just a really nice transition.
- vatican_banker 5y agoThe real power of this product is as a replacement of BI/Visualization tools. Imagine being able to connect Rows to a database and create "governed" sheets that look/work like dashboards with charts, tables, filters, etc. It would be a killer product because most users are familiar with spreadsheets already. Many users end-up copying data from dashboards into spreadsheets (gsheet, excel, etc) so why not skipping the intermediaries and go straight to delivering a hybrid of dashboards and spreadsheets. Lots of potential.
- dagurp 5y agoYou mean like https://grid.is/ https://grid.is/ ?
- vatican_banker 5y agoHaven't heard from them before
- vidar 5y agoCheck out https://grid.is https://grid.is
- Cilvic 5y agoI wish people would just show their product in their webpage instead of selling/telling what is can supposedly do
- JoBrad 5y agoScroll down to the “See what GRID can do” section.
- Cilvic 5y agoThanks, I gave those another try. They links didn't look inviting, expected just more of the same (text + images). But's actually an interactive demo from end-user perspective. that was easy to get: https://grid.is/@grid_templates/template-interactive-user-funnel-eeX9sfwERjiztDIVVT6BKw https://grid.is/@grid_templates/template-interactive-user-fu...
- nateguchi 5y agoIf you haven't looked into it yet - Google Apps Script [0] is an incredibly powerful system when combined with Google Sheets. You can integrate lots of business processes and external systems (rest,soap,databases etc) together and integrate with classic spreadsheet functionality, we use it a lot in our business! [0] https://developers.google.com/apps-script https://developers.google.com/apps-script
- raihansaputra 5y agoIs there a solution to version control/deterministically see/deploy active scripts? How do you manage all the scripts? I've used it to compile/summarize spreadsheets and serve as a simple endpoint (testing webhooks), but not much more.
- logicuce 5y agoYou should look at clasp by Google https://github.com/google/clasp https://github.com/google/clasp Have used it in past to do exactly what you asked for.
- raihansaputra 5y agoWoah seems like Google should promote this instead of the Apps Script API on their Apps Script docs. Deploy, CVS, and TS capability to boot. Thanks!
- jcun4128 5y agoYeah I made a UPS zip-weight lookup with GS/GAS before was pretty cool. Alternative is to use Google Drive apparently/more legit with user auth.
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- waxdotrun 5y agoYeah, I had a similar idea to Rows, but decided it'd be better to add what's missing to Sheets vs. build an entirely separate app. Wax (https://www.wax.run/ https://www.wax.run/) helps you build internal tools on top of Google Sheets. It's built using Apps Script and handles a ton of the boilerplate you'd want for any internal tool. Scheduling and integrations are hard to do in Apps Script, so we handle that and considering a lot of internal tools leverage SQL and Python we make using those them from Sheets simple.
- thenaturalist 5y agoCompliments to see this thrive since 2016 with that large of a team! I had to laugh at the Berlin (ex) Rocket company logos; this age old Excel style data formatting which looks nice and custom at first glance brings back memories of inevitably ending up in swamps of versions, custom tweaks and data inaccuracies. Arguably, most of these problems can be well mitigated by a cloud hosted solution like yours! But the audience being non-tech people, the look is pretty fantastic. From a technical perspective: Care to share how you do data integration (batch/ stream/ mix? All hosted hyperscaler or something like Airbyte)? How do you address what I would think are dynamic load peaks during business days?
- mritchie712 5y agoWow, thanks for pointing out the founding date. I'd heard of Rows only recently and thought they launched this year.
- appplemac 5y agoUsed to be called dashdash.
- Frost596 5y agoThank you for posting that it could be just the thing to give inspiration to someone who needs it! Keep up the great work! https://www.mycardstatement.vip/ https://www.mycardstatement.vip/
- gnrlst 5y agocurious how much startup funding went into the domain acquisition? Or was it already owned? (Also curious for you.com which is on the HN top page)
- henrique_cruz 5y agothe domain was ~$100k we wrote the story, project, prices of the rebrand in our blog if you're curious https://blog.rows.com/p/why-how-rebrand https://blog.rows.com/p/why-how-rebrand
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- dang 5y ago"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something." "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. 'That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3' can be shortened to '1 + 1 is 2, not 3." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- thriftwy 5y agoThis is the tech that may be the future of computing. All of your company's data stored, and handled, in Rows. Or not. The chief concern is that modern data protection laws would make all columns of these tables unreadable without specific sanction. You're not free to address any cell in any table, just a pre-cleared strict subset, which no longer allows you to take advantage of easy aggregation and filtering of data.
- mrtksn 5y agoQuite nice but I wonder why the scene for this kind of tools is stuck in the Spreadsheets and pipes interface. Definitely powerful, Excel itself is an amazing tool, having an "Excel" that can fetch data is 10X more powerful as we see with Google Docs or other products too. However, using these still feels wrong for me. It seems to be simplifying some stuff but can get very complex quickly and hard to debug when you want to do something more involved. At that point, writing code gets much easier than managing ever expanding complexity of the No-Code solutions. IMHO someone some day will crack it and programming for data processing will become a visual endeavour.
- boringg 5y agoHow is this different from Airtable? Also I always wanted something that could connect directly to python in the background instead of super clunky pipeline building importing xls etc.
- texodus 5y agoTry this project I work on, https://perspective.finos.org/ https://perspective.finos.org/ . It comes with a Python library (that runs the exact same engine/code as in the wasm version), and even a JupyterLab plugin. You can run the engine fully in-python, in-Javascript (via wasm), or replicated between the two. Standalone Python virtual server example https://github.com/finos/perspective/tree/master/examples/tornado-streaming-python https://github.com/finos/perspective/tree/master/examples/to... JupyterLab demo on Binder https://mybinder.org/v2/gh/finos/perspective/master?urlpath=lab/tree/examples/jupyter-notebooks https://mybinder.org/v2/gh/finos/perspective/master?urlpath=...
- donjuan7331 5y agoTechnical debt, yes please
- xyzzy21 5y agoSorry but online tools like this are still Fail. Not everyone has online access 24x7: I don't have it where I live; I travel enough for work to not have it on travel about 50% of the time; I work with customers to whom we sell product, who Air-Gap their central operations for security reasons. Etc. Etc. I don't know what market was imagined but there are broad swaths that will never be accessible to you with the first design mistake of "it's convenient for US"!
- ChrisArchitect 5y agoHa, that's $ome domain name. Also comparing product to Yahoo Pipes in the original post, how many prospective customers are gonna know what that is other than a handful of us around here? haha
- waxdotrun 5y agoThought that was funny too. The company has been around since 2016 (originally called "dashdash") and Pipes shut down in 2015, so it'd make sense as the original pitch in 2016.
- dimgl 5y agoIs this like Fieldbook? I always thought Fieldbook was such a cool product but I think the company didn't go anywhere.
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- tammer 5y agoas someone responsible for a small nonprofit that runs on google sheets, this product is super exciting. a suggestion: key to us adopting this would be the migration story. I’d love if that was clearly presented on the website.
- henriquecruz 5y agothank you for the feedback, 100%! we're shipping import export csv/xls and other ways to migrate data. Then we can tell a better story around it.
- oysteroyster 5y agoI've used Rows before & can't recommend it enough, their support is also top tier.
- henriquecruz 5y agothank you <3
- dsagal 5y agoLooks great, and I like that there is a lot of overlap with Grist: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257521 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257521, https://www.getgrist.com https://www.getgrist.com (of which I am a founder). The differences are interesting: rows.com seems more focused on external integrations; Grist has API but is more focused on powerful formulas and layouts for working within the data. I imagine the overlap will only increase. I take it as confirmation that these are good ideas to pursue.
- abol3z 5y agoI am not that familiar with theses new sheet like apps. Although I like them because I hate sheets/excel. But can anyone point out the main focus difference between this and Airtable?