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I rent an Airbnb in Miami but fly back to uk after a hangover style party. Good luck sueing me, even if you did most people don't have a 10,000usd never mind a

I rent an Airbnb in Miami but fly back to uk after a hangover style party. Good luck sueing me, even if you did most people don't have a 10,000usd never mind a 1m, then enforcement and collection.how does that open and shut?

resonantjacket5 5y ago
You'd have a hard time re-entering the usa after automatically losing the case by not showing up at the courthouse and not paying the bill. But in any case the scenario of leaving the country is not unique to airbnb and exists for rental cars, other loans, and basically any activity involving borrowing something
- rootsudo 5y ago
  Not really. no time to re-enter, they will not enforce this upon entry. It is not criminal, it is civil. It is not criminal yet to not show up in a civil case.
  - stickfigure 5y ago
    Here in California (and, I would bet, all other states) it is felony vandalism. Definitely criminal.
  - resonantjacket5 5y ago
    The criminal part I am referring to is failure to pay (assuming you are able to in the scenario that one fled to another country to avoid paying)
scoopertrooper 5y ago
You're making a good argument for the reinstitution of debtors prisons.
- googlge6X 5y ago
  I'm making the point it's hardly open and shut
rootsudo 5y ago
Nothing, your airbnb account is banned, they'll probably try to bill your credit card, but not much. You can send a fee request, but mostly you do that to show airbnb you tried and they'll maybe compensate you if they agree.
ketralnis 5y ago
It's true, you can commit crimes and flee the country consequence-free. You found the loophole. Close it up boys, we're done here.
dfadsadsf 5y ago
Actually intentionally trashing place at 1M level is criminal offense (vandalism/destruction of property) in pretty much every state, local police will most definitely open criminal case and it may even rise to the level of extradition (and UK has extradition treaty with US). If you intentionally trash the place at a few thousand dollars level then year - nobody will probably bother other than banning you from AirBnB for life. One time we sort of trashed AirBnB (my 2 year old got hold of pen and draw on the wall and couch while we were not looking) and the only consequence was paying 400 or so in fine (max liability on listing) and stern letter from AirBnB that they may ban us if it happens again.

resonantjacket5 5y ago

You'd have a hard time re-entering the usa after automatically losing the case by not showing up at the courthouse and not paying the bill. But in any case the scenario of leaving the country is not unique to airbnb and exists for rental cars, other loans, and basically any activity involving borrowing something

rootsudo 5y ago
Not really. no time to re-enter, they will not enforce this upon entry. It is not criminal, it is civil. It is not criminal yet to not show up in a civil case.
- stickfigure 5y ago
  Here in California (and, I would bet, all other states) it is felony vandalism. Definitely criminal.
- resonantjacket5 5y ago
  The criminal part I am referring to is failure to pay (assuming you are able to in the scenario that one fled to another country to avoid paying)

scoopertrooper 5y ago

You're making a good argument for the reinstitution of debtors prisons.

googlge6X 5y ago
I'm making the point it's hardly open and shut

rootsudo 5y ago

Nothing, your airbnb account is banned, they'll probably try to bill your credit card, but not much. You can send a fee request, but mostly you do that to show airbnb you tried and they'll maybe compensate you if they agree.

ketralnis 5y ago

It's true, you can commit crimes and flee the country consequence-free. You found the loophole. Close it up boys, we're done here.

dfadsadsf 5y ago

Actually intentionally trashing place at 1M level is criminal offense (vandalism/destruction of property) in pretty much every state, local police will most definitely open criminal case and it may even rise to the level of extradition (and UK has extradition treaty with US). If you intentionally trash the place at a few thousand dollars level then year - nobody will probably bother other than banning you from AirBnB for life. One time we sort of trashed AirBnB (my 2 year old got hold of pen and draw on the wall and couch while we were not looking) and the only consequence was paying 400 or so in fine (max liability on listing) and stern letter from AirBnB that they may ban us if it happens again.