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It isn't bad. Lots of interesting ideas. I like the self-criticism and multiple theories---your writing is quite uncommonly self-reflective. Kinda amazing if t

It isn't bad. Lots of interesting ideas. I like the self-criticism and multiple theories---your writing is quite uncommonly self-reflective. Kinda amazing if this was only when you were 15. This stuff is extremely hard to articulate. Can I ask you .. when did you "abandon the theory ?" Also, what kind of stuff did you read before writing this paper ? What kind of stuff influenced you ? I would be curious to know how much you read about psychology, behaviorism, neuroscience etc. before writing the paper. Read minsky's books. Society of Mind and Emotion Machine. These are the most comprehensive overview to AI/computational psychology. EM's got a lot of stuff about 'consciousness' and what it means to be relatively conscious. I like that you don't slip into metaphysical crap about it, but rather go into mechanistic explanation of the phenomenon. http://web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/E4/eb4.html http://web.media.mit.edu/~minsky/E4/eb4.html (the server is down..check in a couple of days) Here's a recent lecture by Minsky about his ideas: http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/484/ http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/484/ Minsky had the idea of low level / high level brain which he expanded to a 6 level brain (like your stuff in 'feedback to the theory' section). It was partially implemented in Lisp by his student Push Singh in 2005 in his phd thesis over at mit. I think his work would roughly map to your 'illusionary and actual machinary' idea. The illusionary machinery constantly represents the actions of the actual machinery. This is what you perhaps mean by 'sends partial information. Note that the illusionary machinery needs to be able to influence the future actions of the actual machinery. I like that you have multiple goal types. http://web.media.mit.edu/~push/ http://web.media.mit.edu/~push/ Also read the writings of Aaron Sloman over at Birmingham.

paraschopra 18y ago
Hi, thanks for the appreciation. Actually, I started writing this when I was 13-14 years old. The document had been abandoned about 3 years back and now a year back it was revived again by a guy called Nick. I worked with him for a while and we called the new thing as Intelligent Entity (IE). Now that project is also kinda hibernated/abandoned. We had lots of crazy ideas in the new document, like evolving the IE from the scratch. I will try to get that document from Nick and then post it on HN. To be frank, I didn't read much before writing this thing. I had just read neural networks (that is why you would find such heavy emphasis of it in this document) and pondered a lot on how mind really works. I remember I had found deja-vus, dreams and other such stuff very amusing. So, I had started examining what could be the possible mechanism for all such weird phenomenon with the mind. Most of the thinking is from the scratch based on what I thought was commonsensical. I am really surprised (and happy) to learn that Minsky and Push had similar ideas. Thanks for all the links. I will definitely go through them.
- nickpape 18y ago
  Hi, This is Nick, and if you want to see it the link to our semi-recent project journal is here: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg88r9d8_17fnhc36 http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg88r9d8_17fnhc36 My background in the project is basically the same as Paras', and I started working on it nearly the same age as he did... I tried to focus on working with NN's because they seemed like the way to go, but eventually our theories started getting so hard to do from a programming view. I have really thought a lot about how the brain (mind) actually works and creativity is what most interested me... How to make something be creative, and create ideas (as the cognitive side always interest me) was always the big question when working on the project. Anyways, I am lucky to have a bit more background than Paras' did at my age with having the opportunity to go to Duke and take psychology (and abnormal psychology) college classes as a freshman and 8th grader. Anyways the problem is the project needs a creative push, which will come relatively soon. Nick

paraschopra 18y ago

Hi, thanks for the appreciation. Actually, I started writing this when I was 13-14 years old. The document had been abandoned about 3 years back and now a year back it was revived again by a guy called Nick. I worked with him for a while and we called the new thing as Intelligent Entity (IE). Now that project is also kinda hibernated/abandoned. We had lots of crazy ideas in the new document, like evolving the IE from the scratch. I will try to get that document from Nick and then post it on HN. To be frank, I didn't read much before writing this thing. I had just read neural networks (that is why you would find such heavy emphasis of it in this document) and pondered a lot on how mind really works. I remember I had found deja-vus, dreams and other such stuff very amusing. So, I had started examining what could be the possible mechanism for all such weird phenomenon with the mind. Most of the thinking is from the scratch based on what I thought was commonsensical. I am really surprised (and happy) to learn that Minsky and Push had similar ideas. Thanks for all the links. I will definitely go through them.

nickpape 18y ago
Hi, This is Nick, and if you want to see it the link to our semi-recent project journal is here: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg88r9d8_17fnhc36 http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg88r9d8_17fnhc36 My background in the project is basically the same as Paras', and I started working on it nearly the same age as he did... I tried to focus on working with NN's because they seemed like the way to go, but eventually our theories started getting so hard to do from a programming view. I have really thought a lot about how the brain (mind) actually works and creativity is what most interested me... How to make something be creative, and create ideas (as the cognitive side always interest me) was always the big question when working on the project. Anyways, I am lucky to have a bit more background than Paras' did at my age with having the opportunity to go to Duke and take psychology (and abnormal psychology) college classes as a freshman and 8th grader. Anyways the problem is the project needs a creative push, which will come relatively soon. Nick