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> German consumers still don't do that, despite paying the highest electricity bills in the developed world (almost twice of what the French pay). No (France .

> German consumers still don't do that, despite paying the highest electricity bills in the developed world (almost twice of what the French pay). No (France .32, Germany .19), and this comparison isn't sound because the financial models differ: Germany finances its transition by taxes on energy, and France mainly finances it thanks to other taxes (the consolidated tax burden is way higher in France). Prices: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Electricity_price_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... Moreover higher prices are a way to moderate consumption and entice energy-saving approaches.

woodpanel 5y ago
Sorry, your price link is contradicting you. Meanwhile you've left out that aside from energy-taxation, Germans already are having the highest income-tax and social-security costs of the developed world as well. France must have some very elaborate scheme hiding this great price-equalizer.
- natmaka 5y ago
  > Sorry, your price link is contradicting you .32 is in my book far from "almost 2 times" .19 > Germans already are having the highest income-tax and social-security costs of the developed world Nope, the tax burden is way higher in France: 46.2% of GDP in 2020, while Germany is at 37.5% Secondary source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_reven...
  - woodpanel 5y ago
    > .32 is in my book far from "almost 2 times" .19 I mean you've written it yourself: "almost" > Nope, the tax burden is way higher in France: 46.2% of GDP in 2020, while Germany is at 37.5% And then you're leaving out secial-security costs, way to go! https://img.welt.de/img/wirtschaft/mobile207627583/3297937857-coriginal-w1200/DWO-WI-OECD-Bruttolohn-fb.jpg https://img.welt.de/img/wirtschaft/mobile207627583/329793785...
    - natmaka 5y ago
      > I mean you've written it yourself: "almost" Nope. I was quoting you (with the '>' sign, just as you do). Please re-read. > And then you're leaving out secial-security costs False, once more. France is clearly way ahead of Germany, and for quite a long time (and until now I thought it is well-known): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_social_welfare_spending https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_social_we...
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > Germans already are having the highest income-tax and social-security costs of the developed world as well. Having lived in a couple of Nordic countries for most[1] of my life, allow me to be sceptical about that. ___ [1]: Unter fünf Johr im Ländle wo jeadas Haus a Häusle isch.

woodpanel 5y ago

Sorry, your price link is contradicting you. Meanwhile you've left out that aside from energy-taxation, Germans already are having the highest income-tax and social-security costs of the developed world as well. France must have some very elaborate scheme hiding this great price-equalizer.

natmaka 5y ago
> Sorry, your price link is contradicting you .32 is in my book far from "almost 2 times" .19 > Germans already are having the highest income-tax and social-security costs of the developed world Nope, the tax burden is way higher in France: 46.2% of GDP in 2020, while Germany is at 37.5% Secondary source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_reven...
- woodpanel 5y ago
  > .32 is in my book far from "almost 2 times" .19 I mean you've written it yourself: "almost" > Nope, the tax burden is way higher in France: 46.2% of GDP in 2020, while Germany is at 37.5% And then you're leaving out secial-security costs, way to go! https://img.welt.de/img/wirtschaft/mobile207627583/3297937857-coriginal-w1200/DWO-WI-OECD-Bruttolohn-fb.jpg https://img.welt.de/img/wirtschaft/mobile207627583/329793785...
  - natmaka 5y ago
    > I mean you've written it yourself: "almost" Nope. I was quoting you (with the '>' sign, just as you do). Please re-read. > And then you're leaving out secial-security costs False, once more. France is clearly way ahead of Germany, and for quite a long time (and until now I thought it is well-known): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_social_welfare_spending https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_social_we...
CRConrad 5y ago
> Germans already are having the highest income-tax and social-security costs of the developed world as well. Having lived in a couple of Nordic countries for most[1] of my life, allow me to be sceptical about that. ___ [1]: Unter fünf Johr im Ländle wo jeadas Haus a Häusle isch.