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Give shit like this a platform, and then wonder why social interaction is dying out. Sure is easier to just not talk to anybody.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
Or you can kindly hear people when they tell you they’re in pain, listen to what they need and what they’re struggling with, and go from there. If your definition of talking to someone is making them feel shittier by being “positive”, without regard for whether it makes them feel shittier, yeah you’re already not socially interacting with them. You’re just one-sided dumping your frame of mind and interpretation on them.
- slackfan 5y ago
  And in this case, they're one-sided dumping their frame of mind on me, (which can be downright abusive) and anything I say either way, supportive or non-supportive can be held against me, pending interpretation.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    So it sounds like your intent is to be dismissive with positivity to avoid abuse by an undue burden of negativity. I mean, I’ve experienced that kind of abuse so I don’t blame you. But I still the response that way, I think there are better ways to protect yourself, and I think a lot of people who are in pain and feel unheard deserve better than emptiness of any kind regardless of the positivity expressed.
  - klyrs 5y ago
    I was invited to an icebreaker-type meeting where the topic was "how have the lockdowns improved your life." Doesn't that just make you feel warm and fuzzy?
hhaha88 5y ago
Maybe we’re just getting older and realizing forced social interaction isn’t necessarily a useful goal? There’s no center of the universe; why does social life, big picture, have to march along with root principles? Why are school schedules the way they are? Why is school in a bunch of dumpy buildings and not like a sole proprietorship that serves its neighbors, reimbursed for resources so long as it follows some curriculum that in the end just provides basic problem solving skills acquisition? We need people with skills to make life supporting things. A whole lot of the rest of it, retail jobs peddling disposable crap people could make if they didn’t need a retail job, is just serving old stories. Maybe constantly needing to socialize is an application of agency we don’t need. Maybe it’s reinforced a lot given institutions push us into competitive groups to haggle in Germanic/Romantic/Arabic/etc gibberish.

eyelidlessness 5y ago

Or you can kindly hear people when they tell you they’re in pain, listen to what they need and what they’re struggling with, and go from there. If your definition of talking to someone is making them feel shittier by being “positive”, without regard for whether it makes them feel shittier, yeah you’re already not socially interacting with them. You’re just one-sided dumping your frame of mind and interpretation on them.

slackfan 5y ago
And in this case, they're one-sided dumping their frame of mind on me, (which can be downright abusive) and anything I say either way, supportive or non-supportive can be held against me, pending interpretation.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  So it sounds like your intent is to be dismissive with positivity to avoid abuse by an undue burden of negativity. I mean, I’ve experienced that kind of abuse so I don’t blame you. But I still the response that way, I think there are better ways to protect yourself, and I think a lot of people who are in pain and feel unheard deserve better than emptiness of any kind regardless of the positivity expressed.
- klyrs 5y ago
  I was invited to an icebreaker-type meeting where the topic was "how have the lockdowns improved your life." Doesn't that just make you feel warm and fuzzy?

hhaha88 5y ago

Maybe we’re just getting older and realizing forced social interaction isn’t necessarily a useful goal? There’s no center of the universe; why does social life, big picture, have to march along with root principles? Why are school schedules the way they are? Why is school in a bunch of dumpy buildings and not like a sole proprietorship that serves its neighbors, reimbursed for resources so long as it follows some curriculum that in the end just provides basic problem solving skills acquisition? We need people with skills to make life supporting things. A whole lot of the rest of it, retail jobs peddling disposable crap people could make if they didn’t need a retail job, is just serving old stories. Maybe constantly needing to socialize is an application of agency we don’t need. Maybe it’s reinforced a lot given institutions push us into competitive groups to haggle in Germanic/Romantic/Arabic/etc gibberish.