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Vogtle nuclear delayed again due to shoddy work that needs redoing, raising cost to >$27.8 billion. New timeline means 16 to 17 years between planning and oper

by jhylau 5y ago

Vogtle nuclear delayed again due to shoddy work that needs redoing, raising cost to >$27.8 billion. New timeline means 16 to 17 years between planning and operation, thus 16-17 years of CO2 and pollution before a single kWh https://www.wabe.org/new-delay-for-georgia-nuclear-reactors-as-costs-mount/ https://www.wabe.org/new-delay-for-georgia-nuclear-reactors-... we are running out of time! the transition to WWS is faster and cheaper. see: https://web.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/Articles/I/WWS-145-Countries.html https://web.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/Articles/I/WWS-...

steeve 5y ago
Oh stop with the "it's too slow" already: https://twitter.com/steeve/status/1426103525050814464?s=20 https://twitter.com/steeve/status/1426103525050814464?s=20
- epistasis 5y ago
  I'm not sure what's been debunked. The US does not have the construction capabilities of 1970s France. And for that matter, neither does France, as is being proven in Flamanville and in Olkiluoto, Finland. Perhaps we can invite Slovakia or Russia to build in other countries, but there's no knowing if they could train local workforces accomplish what they have.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    UK is taking decades to buils a train line, and its gonna cost as much as the moon landings, all of them. Maybe this whole outsourcing of all technical skills and manufacturing actually has something to do with it? Maybe treating staff as disposable cpgs hollows out skills untill the companies can no longer do anything right?
    - toyg 5y ago
      I suspect the real reason is "maybe turning profit-skimming by intermediate layers of management into an art-form, makes any large-scale project-costs trend to infinity". HS2 spent ungodly sums on "consulting" and management fees to do stuff that, back in the day, would have probably been carried out by a couple of commandeered civil servants. But I'm sure all their Word reports have nice headings and lots of "holistic" something.
enaaem 5y ago
The best time to invest in nuclear was 40 years ago. The second best time is now.

by jhylau 5y ago

steeve 5y ago

Oh stop with the "it's too slow" already: https://twitter.com/steeve/status/1426103525050814464?s=20 https://twitter.com/steeve/status/1426103525050814464?s=20

epistasis 5y ago
I'm not sure what's been debunked. The US does not have the construction capabilities of 1970s France. And for that matter, neither does France, as is being proven in Flamanville and in Olkiluoto, Finland. Perhaps we can invite Slovakia or Russia to build in other countries, but there's no knowing if they could train local workforces accomplish what they have.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  UK is taking decades to buils a train line, and its gonna cost as much as the moon landings, all of them. Maybe this whole outsourcing of all technical skills and manufacturing actually has something to do with it? Maybe treating staff as disposable cpgs hollows out skills untill the companies can no longer do anything right?
  - toyg 5y ago
    I suspect the real reason is "maybe turning profit-skimming by intermediate layers of management into an art-form, makes any large-scale project-costs trend to infinity". HS2 spent ungodly sums on "consulting" and management fees to do stuff that, back in the day, would have probably been carried out by a couple of commandeered civil servants. But I'm sure all their Word reports have nice headings and lots of "holistic" something.

enaaem 5y ago

The best time to invest in nuclear was 40 years ago. The second best time is now.