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In France a strategy that was successfully used a while ago to cast extra votes undetected was to use dead people identities. Maybe something similar could be i

by forty 5y ago

In France a strategy that was successfully used a while ago to cast extra votes undetected was to use dead people identities. Maybe something similar could be implemented in the UK, even more easily if no identity proof is required :)

denton-scratch 5y ago
When registering to vote, the householder has to fill in a form, giving details of all those eligible to vote. There's a limited number of slots to name a registrant; I think its 4 or 5. A crooked householder could, I suppose, register 5 dead people at his address; if he got caught, he'd be prosecuted. With 10 crooked householders, you could get 50 crooked votes. Hardly any elections turn on that few votes.
mytailorisrich 5y ago
There is fraud in the UK as well, of course. Some of it because there is no ID, as said, and register is often out of date: For example when you move into a new home the local council will at some point sends you a list of people registered at your address to check it is still valid. How many times can you them vote? It is said that some houses in less than great neighbourhoods have up to 30 people registered as residents on the electoral register.... Right. That said this usually raises eyebrows and people do get caught [1] Another example, because electoral registers are independently managed by councils people can be registered in several location and thus vote several times (though it is not legal). It was admitted that some students did that to vote twice in the Brexit referendum, for instance (once at their parents', once at university). But it is downplayed because people don't want IDs and because fraud probably does not skew results (at least nationally). [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176591/Tory-councillor-jailed-using-ghost-voters-rig-local-election.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176591/Tory-counci...

by forty 5y ago

denton-scratch 5y ago

When registering to vote, the householder has to fill in a form, giving details of all those eligible to vote. There's a limited number of slots to name a registrant; I think its 4 or 5. A crooked householder could, I suppose, register 5 dead people at his address; if he got caught, he'd be prosecuted. With 10 crooked householders, you could get 50 crooked votes. Hardly any elections turn on that few votes.

mytailorisrich 5y ago

There is fraud in the UK as well, of course. Some of it because there is no ID, as said, and register is often out of date: For example when you move into a new home the local council will at some point sends you a list of people registered at your address to check it is still valid. How many times can you them vote? It is said that some houses in less than great neighbourhoods have up to 30 people registered as residents on the electoral register.... Right. That said this usually raises eyebrows and people do get caught [1] Another example, because electoral registers are independently managed by councils people can be registered in several location and thus vote several times (though it is not legal). It was admitted that some students did that to vote twice in the Brexit referendum, for instance (once at their parents', once at university). But it is downplayed because people don't want IDs and because fraud probably does not skew results (at least nationally). [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176591/Tory-councillor-jailed-using-ghost-voters-rig-local-election.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176591/Tory-counci...