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In this scenario couldn't you just run it in a VM? Or would their software trip once they realize they can't see vacation photos on your desktop?

javajosh 5y ago
The article states the software won't run in a VM
josephcsible 5y ago
This kind of software almost universally detects and refuses to run in VMs.
- donkarma 5y ago
  It is not hard to create a hardened VM. If anti-cheats can't detect it, neither can some off-brand user mode teaching software
  - branon 5y ago
    Got some links to resources about doing this? Would be interested in having a hardened VM on-hand for things like this.
    - donkarma 5y ago
      KVM is probably your best bet on Linux and VMware the best on Windows. https://github.com/hzqst/VmwareHardenedLoader https://github.com/hzqst/VmwareHardenedLoader works for VMware but doesn't work against some modern anti-cheats, but KVM universally works against anti-cheats when configured properly with RTDSC spoofing and such
  - acdha 5y ago
    It's harder than you think, and remember that the consequence is not “I can't play a game until I revert my config” but “I was reported to my college for an ethics violation and now my $$$ degree is in question” or “My professional organization has been told that I attempted to cheat and the certification I need to keep my job is in jeopardy”. There are many things which are technically possible which are not a favorable cost-benefit for most people. This is in the same category as those guys who relied on technically being able to fly without showing ID to the TSA — there's a reason why it was mostly affluent white men flying solo, because the potential downsides are much greater for most other categories.
ok123456 5y ago
VM detection is usually pretty bad. They just look for magic strings that are easy enough to fake.
- no_time 5y ago
  The difference between "easy to fake" and "hellishly difficult" is the authors clicking next-next-finish in VMProtect or not.
  - donkarma 5y ago
    There are github repos to harden VMware against VMProtect, let alone KVM
  - ok123456 5y ago
    they still have to interact the system, and make system calls.

javajosh 5y ago

The article states the software won't run in a VM

josephcsible 5y ago

This kind of software almost universally detects and refuses to run in VMs.

donkarma 5y ago
It is not hard to create a hardened VM. If anti-cheats can't detect it, neither can some off-brand user mode teaching software
- branon 5y ago
  Got some links to resources about doing this? Would be interested in having a hardened VM on-hand for things like this.
  - donkarma 5y ago
    KVM is probably your best bet on Linux and VMware the best on Windows. https://github.com/hzqst/VmwareHardenedLoader https://github.com/hzqst/VmwareHardenedLoader works for VMware but doesn't work against some modern anti-cheats, but KVM universally works against anti-cheats when configured properly with RTDSC spoofing and such
- acdha 5y ago
  It's harder than you think, and remember that the consequence is not “I can't play a game until I revert my config” but “I was reported to my college for an ethics violation and now my $$$ degree is in question” or “My professional organization has been told that I attempted to cheat and the certification I need to keep my job is in jeopardy”. There are many things which are technically possible which are not a favorable cost-benefit for most people. This is in the same category as those guys who relied on technically being able to fly without showing ID to the TSA — there's a reason why it was mostly affluent white men flying solo, because the potential downsides are much greater for most other categories.

ok123456 5y ago

VM detection is usually pretty bad. They just look for magic strings that are easy enough to fake.

no_time 5y ago
The difference between "easy to fake" and "hellishly difficult" is the authors clicking next-next-finish in VMProtect or not.
- donkarma 5y ago
  There are github repos to harden VMware against VMProtect, let alone KVM
- ok123456 5y ago
  they still have to interact the system, and make system calls.