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Which is sort of the same thing. "I don't want to run this expensive or complicated test because it's stupid" is certainly a kind of cost cutting.

tyingq 5y ago
Maybe, but not necessarily. I bet many of us paper over requirements we think don't add value, where we can get away with it. Solely because we think it adds no value.
- alistairSH 5y ago
  While both might be illegal, there's a massive difference between papering over a requirement for a business application and papering over a requirement for a mechanical specification. The former might cost a customer money; the latter puts lives at risk.
  - tyingq 5y ago
    >the latter puts lives at risk Maybe. There are certainly past cases of the military creating unreasonable/unhelpful specifications. Edit: Not justification for what she did. Just curiosity, having spent a fair amount of time in the military.
    - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
      It is not the job of an individual to simply just ignore a spec instead of bringing up a complaint.
      - tyingq 5y ago
        Yes, I'm not justifying what she did. I am, however, curious if the requirement was "stupid" or not.
        NikolaeVarius 5y ago
        There is always a chance it is, however without some deep knowledge on the reasons for the spec, its impossible to say why a spec exists in the first place. Many of these large scale engineering specs are "take the worst possible situation you can ever think of and design it so that it can survive 1.3x of that". Yes it sounds stupid to the layman, but this is how you make shit that survives everything you toss at it. Ignoring "dumb specifications" is the reason why SpaceX lost a payload. They used non aeronautical grade metal, which did not conform to the requirements for spaceflight, causing a mission failure.
- NikolaeVarius 5y ago
  Anyone who would paper over requirements that involve lives is a terrible engineer and should be blacklisted from anything resembling engineering.
QuarterReptile 5y ago
It probably significantly improved her return on brain damage.
capitainenemo 5y ago
According to other coverage it was not a failure to run the tests, it was changing failed grades to passes. https://www.wavy.com/news/military/navy/metallurgist-faked-steel-test-results-for-navy-subs-for-decades/ https://www.wavy.com/news/military/navy/metallurgist-faked-s...

tyingq 5y ago

Maybe, but not necessarily. I bet many of us paper over requirements we think don't add value, where we can get away with it. Solely because we think it adds no value.

alistairSH 5y ago
While both might be illegal, there's a massive difference between papering over a requirement for a business application and papering over a requirement for a mechanical specification. The former might cost a customer money; the latter puts lives at risk.
- tyingq 5y ago
  >the latter puts lives at risk Maybe. There are certainly past cases of the military creating unreasonable/unhelpful specifications. Edit: Not justification for what she did. Just curiosity, having spent a fair amount of time in the military.
  - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
    It is not the job of an individual to simply just ignore a spec instead of bringing up a complaint.
    - tyingq 5y ago
      Yes, I'm not justifying what she did. I am, however, curious if the requirement was "stupid" or not.
      - NikolaeVarius 5y ago
        There is always a chance it is, however without some deep knowledge on the reasons for the spec, its impossible to say why a spec exists in the first place. Many of these large scale engineering specs are "take the worst possible situation you can ever think of and design it so that it can survive 1.3x of that". Yes it sounds stupid to the layman, but this is how you make shit that survives everything you toss at it. Ignoring "dumb specifications" is the reason why SpaceX lost a payload. They used non aeronautical grade metal, which did not conform to the requirements for spaceflight, causing a mission failure.
NikolaeVarius 5y ago
Anyone who would paper over requirements that involve lives is a terrible engineer and should be blacklisted from anything resembling engineering.

QuarterReptile 5y ago

It probably significantly improved her return on brain damage.

capitainenemo 5y ago

According to other coverage it was not a failure to run the tests, it was changing failed grades to passes. https://www.wavy.com/news/military/navy/metallurgist-faked-steel-test-results-for-navy-subs-for-decades/ https://www.wavy.com/news/military/navy/metallurgist-faked-s...