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One of the main justifications for inventing the Rust Foundation was to have a good place to own Rust's trademarks, which were previously owned by Mozilla. Th

One of the main justifications for inventing the Rust Foundation was to have a good place to own Rust's trademarks, which were previously owned by Mozilla. The foundation is now nine months old, but I don't see any announcement on its website saying that the trademarks have been transferred. The Rust website [1] says that the Rust trademark is still owned by the Mozilla Foundation. The README in Rust's git repository [2] says it's owned by the Rust Foundation. I am distinctly unimpressed by the foundation's communication skills so far. [1] https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/media-guide https://www.rust-lang.org/policies/media-guide [2] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust https://github.com/rust-lang/rust

neandrake 5y ago
I can't speak to the foundation's performance or communication, but the purpose is more than holding its trademarks; it's for holding any/all assets for the organization. I thought the main catalyst for the rust foundation was there being many people/organizations which wanted to donate/fund development of rust but no means for handling the money (responsibly).
- mastax 5y ago
  Well AFAICT the foundation isn't funding any developers at the moment, either. I remember from the discussions that was always a far-off goal. Though it probably does make it easier to coordinate donating hardware resources.
  - vlang1dot0 5y ago
    The foundation is funding oncall support staff for crates.io which was a much more urgent need than funding more devs. Amazon, Microsoft, Huawei, Google and Futurewei are all now employing a good chunk of the devs to work on it full time.
  - erickt 5y ago
    I believe the first major funding by the Rust Foundation was hiring Ferrous to help develop and maintain crates.io: https://foundation.rust-lang.org/posts/2021-10-18-crates-io-oncall-ferrous-systems/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/posts/2021-10-18-crates-io-...
rectang 5y ago
Well, that may mean that none of the Rust Foundation sponsors have managed to pull off an insider gambit to obtain a trademark licensing deal which unduly advantages them! :) (e.g. control over a canonical domain, official conference, etc.) However, it can also mean that nobody's minding the store, allowing some company to establish a mark in practice which will be difficult to take back later. (This has happened multiple times with ASF projects: CouchDB and CouchBase, Mesos and Mesosphere...)
erk__ 5y ago
The last minutes they have published was for the May meeting [0], and there have even been talk about making the release of the minutes faster in some of the ones that are published. [0]: https://foundation.rust-lang.org/meetings/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/meetings/
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neandrake 5y ago

I can't speak to the foundation's performance or communication, but the purpose is more than holding its trademarks; it's for holding any/all assets for the organization. I thought the main catalyst for the rust foundation was there being many people/organizations which wanted to donate/fund development of rust but no means for handling the money (responsibly).

mastax 5y ago
Well AFAICT the foundation isn't funding any developers at the moment, either. I remember from the discussions that was always a far-off goal. Though it probably does make it easier to coordinate donating hardware resources.
- vlang1dot0 5y ago
  The foundation is funding oncall support staff for crates.io which was a much more urgent need than funding more devs. Amazon, Microsoft, Huawei, Google and Futurewei are all now employing a good chunk of the devs to work on it full time.
- erickt 5y ago
  I believe the first major funding by the Rust Foundation was hiring Ferrous to help develop and maintain crates.io: https://foundation.rust-lang.org/posts/2021-10-18-crates-io-oncall-ferrous-systems/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/posts/2021-10-18-crates-io-...

rectang 5y ago

Well, that may mean that none of the Rust Foundation sponsors have managed to pull off an insider gambit to obtain a trademark licensing deal which unduly advantages them! :) (e.g. control over a canonical domain, official conference, etc.) However, it can also mean that nobody's minding the store, allowing some company to establish a mark in practice which will be difficult to take back later. (This has happened multiple times with ASF projects: CouchDB and CouchBase, Mesos and Mesosphere...)

erk__ 5y ago

The last minutes they have published was for the May meeting [0], and there have even been talk about making the release of the minutes faster in some of the ones that are published. [0]: https://foundation.rust-lang.org/meetings/ https://foundation.rust-lang.org/meetings/

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