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Oh man, I knew it was dangerous to read this thread. Paperless-ng looks awesome. You may have just convinced me to ditch Evernote. Thanks to you next weekend

by tailspin2019 5y ago

Oh man, I knew it was dangerous to read this thread. Paperless-ng looks awesome. You may have just convinced me to ditch Evernote. Thanks to you next weekend will likely be a write-off :-) I’ve been wanting to get off Evernote for years. I can see myself using this in combination with Obsidian.

QuarterReptile 5y ago
What is driving you away from Evernote? I haven't found it really lacking, but I might be missing something.
- tata71 5y ago
  Privacy policy
- aigo 5y ago
  Not the parent, but given they are moving to Obsidian I'd say it's motivated by a desire to self-host and rely less on cloud services.
  - tailspin2019 5y ago
    You guessed correctly!
- rootlocus 5y ago
  For me it's just painfully slow.
- jorisg 5y ago
  I think when it comes to organising work / papers / notes, etc., over time you converge to more and more minimal tools, that do some particular thing really well and really fast, rather than continuing to use a more locked-in GUI version that hides limitations behind ease-of-use. Evernote is great - you just might find that you'll outgrow it at some point and look for something with a bit more fine-grained control. I'm speaking from the point of view of having looked at using all the different flashy to-do lists, all the different 'revolutionary' note taking tools (including Evernote quite extensively), and now using Obsidian, which is basically an IDE for markdown with ability to link files to one another. The simpler tools force you to come up with systems of organisation / linking if you want to do something more complex, but that's the great thing - you get to build your own system incrementally to a point where it's something that actually works really well for you. It's also Electron, so you can write your own plugins!
- tailspin2019 5y ago
  It’s a desire to get off cloud based tools where storage of highly personal data is encouraged but without no-knowledge encryption in place, which is increasingly frustrating to me. Especially for a company like Evernote who are no strangers to security issues. I also dislike the “AI based” content suggestion crap or whatever that is. I don’t want that in my note taking tool. Things like that cross a line for me. It feels yucky. And in general Evernote has totally stagnated as a product in my opinion. I’d even happily pay them more money if the product fitted more in alignment with my use-case. It’s really been great over the years but there is so much they could have done to keep it relevant and for me it just isn’t any more. DropBox has gone a little in the same direction. An “originally great” disruptive product that sadly has bloated and stagnated without adding much more actual value on top of the original concept.
  - cdeutsch 5y ago
    I wish Evernote was stagnate. Instead some product manager is trying to make a name for themselves and monkey patched a ToDo app in and made the UI harder to use. What's border line criminal is the new version is WAY slower than the old one.

QuarterReptile 5y ago

What is driving you away from Evernote? I haven't found it really lacking, but I might be missing something.

tata71 5y ago
Privacy policy
aigo 5y ago
Not the parent, but given they are moving to Obsidian I'd say it's motivated by a desire to self-host and rely less on cloud services.
- tailspin2019 5y ago
  You guessed correctly!
rootlocus 5y ago
For me it's just painfully slow.
jorisg 5y ago
I think when it comes to organising work / papers / notes, etc., over time you converge to more and more minimal tools, that do some particular thing really well and really fast, rather than continuing to use a more locked-in GUI version that hides limitations behind ease-of-use. Evernote is great - you just might find that you'll outgrow it at some point and look for something with a bit more fine-grained control. I'm speaking from the point of view of having looked at using all the different flashy to-do lists, all the different 'revolutionary' note taking tools (including Evernote quite extensively), and now using Obsidian, which is basically an IDE for markdown with ability to link files to one another. The simpler tools force you to come up with systems of organisation / linking if you want to do something more complex, but that's the great thing - you get to build your own system incrementally to a point where it's something that actually works really well for you. It's also Electron, so you can write your own plugins!
tailspin2019 5y ago
It’s a desire to get off cloud based tools where storage of highly personal data is encouraged but without no-knowledge encryption in place, which is increasingly frustrating to me. Especially for a company like Evernote who are no strangers to security issues. I also dislike the “AI based” content suggestion crap or whatever that is. I don’t want that in my note taking tool. Things like that cross a line for me. It feels yucky. And in general Evernote has totally stagnated as a product in my opinion. I’d even happily pay them more money if the product fitted more in alignment with my use-case. It’s really been great over the years but there is so much they could have done to keep it relevant and for me it just isn’t any more. DropBox has gone a little in the same direction. An “originally great” disruptive product that sadly has bloated and stagnated without adding much more actual value on top of the original concept.
- cdeutsch 5y ago
  I wish Evernote was stagnate. Instead some product manager is trying to make a name for themselves and monkey patched a ToDo app in and made the UI harder to use. What's border line criminal is the new version is WAY slower than the old one.