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I've been using paperless-ng for a while. https://github.com/jonaswinkler/paperless-ng https://github.com/jonaswinkler/paperless-ng I have a Samba share that

I've been using paperless-ng for a while. https://github.com/jonaswinkler/paperless-ng https://github.com/jonaswinkler/paperless-ng I have a Samba share that I added as a destination on my network scanner. I then tag them, add a correspondent, and never think about them again. PDFs that are sent to me are just uploaded and tagged the same way. The paper copies are then thrown into a box in hopes I never need the originals. I back up the document storage regularly.

erik998 5y ago
I have been trying teedy https://github.com/sismics/docs https://github.com/sismics/docs It stores everything into postgresql... filesystems are ok but it can get out of hand. I am trying to deploy on microK8s with helm3
tailspin2019 5y ago
Oh man, I knew it was dangerous to read this thread. Paperless-ng looks awesome. You may have just convinced me to ditch Evernote. Thanks to you next weekend will likely be a write-off :-) I’ve been wanting to get off Evernote for years. I can see myself using this in combination with Obsidian.
- QuarterReptile 5y ago
  What is driving you away from Evernote? I haven't found it really lacking, but I might be missing something.
  - tata71 5y ago
    Privacy policy
  - aigo 5y ago
    Not the parent, but given they are moving to Obsidian I'd say it's motivated by a desire to self-host and rely less on cloud services.
    - tailspin2019 5y ago
      You guessed correctly!
  - rootlocus 5y ago
    For me it's just painfully slow.
  - jorisg 5y ago
    I think when it comes to organising work / papers / notes, etc., over time you converge to more and more minimal tools, that do some particular thing really well and really fast, rather than continuing to use a more locked-in GUI version that hides limitations behind ease-of-use. Evernote is great - you just might find that you'll outgrow it at some point and look for something with a bit more fine-grained control. I'm speaking from the point of view of having looked at using all the different flashy to-do lists, all the different 'revolutionary' note taking tools (including Evernote quite extensively), and now using Obsidian, which is basically an IDE for markdown with ability to link files to one another. The simpler tools force you to come up with systems of organisation / linking if you want to do something more complex, but that's the great thing - you get to build your own system incrementally to a point where it's something that actually works really well for you. It's also Electron, so you can write your own plugins!
  - tailspin2019 5y ago
    It’s a desire to get off cloud based tools where storage of highly personal data is encouraged but without no-knowledge encryption in place, which is increasingly frustrating to me. Especially for a company like Evernote who are no strangers to security issues. I also dislike the “AI based” content suggestion crap or whatever that is. I don’t want that in my note taking tool. Things like that cross a line for me. It feels yucky. And in general Evernote has totally stagnated as a product in my opinion. I’d even happily pay them more money if the product fitted more in alignment with my use-case. It’s really been great over the years but there is so much they could have done to keep it relevant and for me it just isn’t any more. DropBox has gone a little in the same direction. An “originally great” disruptive product that sadly has bloated and stagnated without adding much more actual value on top of the original concept.
    - cdeutsch 5y ago
      I wish Evernote was stagnate. Instead some product manager is trying to make a name for themselves and monkey patched a ToDo app in and made the UI harder to use. What's border line criminal is the new version is WAY slower than the old one.
L3viathan 5y ago
I do the same, and I bought a self-incrementing stamp that I use to give (paper) documents an ID. The originals are then sorted only by that ID. That way, I don't need to have a date for every document.
- jeffwass 5y ago
  By this you mean an actual physical self-incrementing ink stamp? I’ve not heard of this before but it’s cool!
  - kseistrup 5y ago
    Physical, self-incrementing ink stamps are indeed cool. Sonme can be set to increase the number every 2 or 3 stamps, meaning that you can stamp an original and its copy with the same number by stamping them right after one another.
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toomuchtodo 5y ago
Can paperless ingest directly from cloud storage (Dropbox, etc)?
- slorenz 5y ago
  Doesn't seem like it: https://paperless-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage_overview.html#adding-documents-to-paperless https://paperless-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage_overview...
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- eddieroger 5y ago
  If your filesystem can see the cloud storage, yes. You can create a directory designated "consume" and it will pull whatever it finds and can handle from there. Maybe that doesn't qualify as "directly", but I don't find it a blocker since paperless needs a computer to run on anyway, so mounting a cloud provider (or NAS in my case) is not much extra.
- tenebrisalietum 5y ago
  Paperless periodically looks for and reads PDFs dumped into a folder. However it gets there (scanner writes to network drive, you copy a PDF to it, cloud storage daemon syncs a cloud folder's contents with it) does not matter to Paperless.
slorenz 5y ago
Agreed, paperless-ng is awesome. Coupled with a NAS for backup and a Brother 1700 Scanner to scan to network folder.
mih 5y ago
Another user of paperless-ng here. For a while, I used another open-source alternative Mayan EDMS - https://www.mayan-edms.com/ https://www.mayan-edms.com/. As opposed to paperless, Mayan provides fine grained access control via ACLs and also allows 'directories' in addition to tags. Dropped it after a while though, since it was too enterprise-y and for in-depth configuration, the documentation was insufficient and I would have to buy the advertised book. Paperless-ng is sufficient for my personal use, though I still miss having directories as an additional level of hierarchical organization alongside tags. Since I don't have a scanner, I just use the Microsoft Lens app to scan documents on my phone (Android). Paired with Syncthing (https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/), my documents are automatically synced to my desktop from where paperless-ng picks it up from the watched folder and automatically adds it. Tags and correspondents can be automatically added based on keywords in the text.
kingzain 5y ago
Is there a similar thing but for organising images? I have a bunch of image folders on my NAS but I would love it to be searchable, automatically tagged by certain criteria so I can filter them, etc. But self-hosted. I don't want to use Google Photos or Dropbox.
- ghaff 5y ago
  For photos, I find Lightroom to be great. But you're still going to have to spend some time on curation, metadata, etc. if you really want things to be findable.
- mih 5y ago
  You can find a bunch of alternatives here - https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#photo-and-video-galleries https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#pho.... If you want features such as facial recognition, you might try taking a closer look at PhotoPrism/LibrePhotos. I did try them about a year ago, but in the end just went with the desktop app digiKam (https://www.digikam.org/ https://www.digikam.org/)
  - kingzain 5y ago
    This is a great resource, thank you!
- ISO-morphism 5y ago
  I haven't used it, but stumbled across Damselfly [1]. From the About on GitHub: > Damselfly is a server-based Photograph Management app. The goal of Damselfly is to index an extremely large collection of images, and allow easy search and retrieval of those images, using metadata such as the IPTC keyword tags, as well as the folder and file names. Damselfly includes support for object/face detection, and face-recognition. [1] https://github.com/Webreaper/Damselfly https://github.com/Webreaper/Damselfly
- mceachen 5y ago
  I'm building that! Some of the features that make PhotoStructure unique: - self-hosted on docker, Linux, macOS, or Windows - cross-platform libraries that can track assets across volumes without duplication [1] - supports reading and writing to .XMP sidecars and Google Takeout JSON files [2] - sophisticated image and video deduplication [3] - quick and novel "samples" UI designed to scale to extremely large libraries (500k+) https://PhotoStructure.com/why https://PhotoStructure.com/why [1]: https://photostructure.com/faq/what-is-a-volume/ https://photostructure.com/faq/what-is-a-volume/ [2]: https://photostructure.com/faq/takeout/ https://photostructure.com/faq/takeout/ [3]: https://photostructure.com/faq/what-do-you-mean-by-deduplicate/ https://photostructure.com/faq/what-do-you-mean-by-deduplica...

erik998 5y ago

I have been trying teedy https://github.com/sismics/docs https://github.com/sismics/docs It stores everything into postgresql... filesystems are ok but it can get out of hand. I am trying to deploy on microK8s with helm3

tailspin2019 5y ago

Oh man, I knew it was dangerous to read this thread. Paperless-ng looks awesome. You may have just convinced me to ditch Evernote. Thanks to you next weekend will likely be a write-off :-) I’ve been wanting to get off Evernote for years. I can see myself using this in combination with Obsidian.

QuarterReptile 5y ago
What is driving you away from Evernote? I haven't found it really lacking, but I might be missing something.
- tata71 5y ago
  Privacy policy
- aigo 5y ago
  Not the parent, but given they are moving to Obsidian I'd say it's motivated by a desire to self-host and rely less on cloud services.
  - tailspin2019 5y ago
    You guessed correctly!
- rootlocus 5y ago
  For me it's just painfully slow.
- jorisg 5y ago
  I think when it comes to organising work / papers / notes, etc., over time you converge to more and more minimal tools, that do some particular thing really well and really fast, rather than continuing to use a more locked-in GUI version that hides limitations behind ease-of-use. Evernote is great - you just might find that you'll outgrow it at some point and look for something with a bit more fine-grained control. I'm speaking from the point of view of having looked at using all the different flashy to-do lists, all the different 'revolutionary' note taking tools (including Evernote quite extensively), and now using Obsidian, which is basically an IDE for markdown with ability to link files to one another. The simpler tools force you to come up with systems of organisation / linking if you want to do something more complex, but that's the great thing - you get to build your own system incrementally to a point where it's something that actually works really well for you. It's also Electron, so you can write your own plugins!
- tailspin2019 5y ago
  It’s a desire to get off cloud based tools where storage of highly personal data is encouraged but without no-knowledge encryption in place, which is increasingly frustrating to me. Especially for a company like Evernote who are no strangers to security issues. I also dislike the “AI based” content suggestion crap or whatever that is. I don’t want that in my note taking tool. Things like that cross a line for me. It feels yucky. And in general Evernote has totally stagnated as a product in my opinion. I’d even happily pay them more money if the product fitted more in alignment with my use-case. It’s really been great over the years but there is so much they could have done to keep it relevant and for me it just isn’t any more. DropBox has gone a little in the same direction. An “originally great” disruptive product that sadly has bloated and stagnated without adding much more actual value on top of the original concept.
  - cdeutsch 5y ago
    I wish Evernote was stagnate. Instead some product manager is trying to make a name for themselves and monkey patched a ToDo app in and made the UI harder to use. What's border line criminal is the new version is WAY slower than the old one.

L3viathan 5y ago

I do the same, and I bought a self-incrementing stamp that I use to give (paper) documents an ID. The originals are then sorted only by that ID. That way, I don't need to have a date for every document.

jeffwass 5y ago
By this you mean an actual physical self-incrementing ink stamp? I’ve not heard of this before but it’s cool!
- kseistrup 5y ago
  Physical, self-incrementing ink stamps are indeed cool. Sonme can be set to increase the number every 2 or 3 stamps, meaning that you can stamp an original and its copy with the same number by stamping them right after one another.

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toomuchtodo 5y ago

Can paperless ingest directly from cloud storage (Dropbox, etc)?

slorenz 5y ago
Doesn't seem like it: https://paperless-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage_overview.html#adding-documents-to-paperless https://paperless-ng.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage_overview...
- deleted 5y ago
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eddieroger 5y ago
If your filesystem can see the cloud storage, yes. You can create a directory designated "consume" and it will pull whatever it finds and can handle from there. Maybe that doesn't qualify as "directly", but I don't find it a blocker since paperless needs a computer to run on anyway, so mounting a cloud provider (or NAS in my case) is not much extra.
tenebrisalietum 5y ago
Paperless periodically looks for and reads PDFs dumped into a folder. However it gets there (scanner writes to network drive, you copy a PDF to it, cloud storage daemon syncs a cloud folder's contents with it) does not matter to Paperless.

slorenz 5y ago

Agreed, paperless-ng is awesome. Coupled with a NAS for backup and a Brother 1700 Scanner to scan to network folder.

mih 5y ago

Another user of paperless-ng here. For a while, I used another open-source alternative Mayan EDMS - https://www.mayan-edms.com/ https://www.mayan-edms.com/. As opposed to paperless, Mayan provides fine grained access control via ACLs and also allows 'directories' in addition to tags. Dropped it after a while though, since it was too enterprise-y and for in-depth configuration, the documentation was insufficient and I would have to buy the advertised book. Paperless-ng is sufficient for my personal use, though I still miss having directories as an additional level of hierarchical organization alongside tags. Since I don't have a scanner, I just use the Microsoft Lens app to scan documents on my phone (Android). Paired with Syncthing (https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/), my documents are automatically synced to my desktop from where paperless-ng picks it up from the watched folder and automatically adds it. Tags and correspondents can be automatically added based on keywords in the text.

kingzain 5y ago

Is there a similar thing but for organising images? I have a bunch of image folders on my NAS but I would love it to be searchable, automatically tagged by certain criteria so I can filter them, etc. But self-hosted. I don't want to use Google Photos or Dropbox.

ghaff 5y ago
For photos, I find Lightroom to be great. But you're still going to have to spend some time on curation, metadata, etc. if you really want things to be findable.
mih 5y ago
You can find a bunch of alternatives here - https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#photo-and-video-galleries https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#pho.... If you want features such as facial recognition, you might try taking a closer look at PhotoPrism/LibrePhotos. I did try them about a year ago, but in the end just went with the desktop app digiKam (https://www.digikam.org/ https://www.digikam.org/)
- kingzain 5y ago
  This is a great resource, thank you!
ISO-morphism 5y ago
I haven't used it, but stumbled across Damselfly [1]. From the About on GitHub: > Damselfly is a server-based Photograph Management app. The goal of Damselfly is to index an extremely large collection of images, and allow easy search and retrieval of those images, using metadata such as the IPTC keyword tags, as well as the folder and file names. Damselfly includes support for object/face detection, and face-recognition. [1] https://github.com/Webreaper/Damselfly https://github.com/Webreaper/Damselfly
mceachen 5y ago
I'm building that! Some of the features that make PhotoStructure unique: - self-hosted on docker, Linux, macOS, or Windows - cross-platform libraries that can track assets across volumes without duplication [1] - supports reading and writing to .XMP sidecars and Google Takeout JSON files [2] - sophisticated image and video deduplication [3] - quick and novel "samples" UI designed to scale to extremely large libraries (500k+) https://PhotoStructure.com/why https://PhotoStructure.com/why [1]: https://photostructure.com/faq/what-is-a-volume/ https://photostructure.com/faq/what-is-a-volume/ [2]: https://photostructure.com/faq/takeout/ https://photostructure.com/faq/takeout/ [3]: https://photostructure.com/faq/what-do-you-mean-by-deduplicate/ https://photostructure.com/faq/what-do-you-mean-by-deduplica...