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All those poo-pooing NFT's will miss NFT gaming and gambling like a freight train to the face. Reading the comments, I see too many people focused on the art a

All those poo-pooing NFT's will miss NFT gaming and gambling like a freight train to the face. Reading the comments, I see too many people focused on the art aspect (of course this is OP's articles focus). NFT's applied to art is a bit stupid and makes only nominal sense. NFT art is really just flexing for the rich, because as anyone realizes, right-click save-as is all you need to have the art too, just not the "key" or "ownership proof" to that art. However when it comes to gameing, its a whole different story. Think of it more like a key to unlock something unique in some digital world. Want to own the unique special edition sword with rare attributes in the Zelda-verse or the uber lazer in your favorite open world space game? Buy the NFT block chain address to it that says you and only you can have it (check out Phantom Galaxies). Want to own the penthouse apartment in the zuckers-verse? Buy the NFT key that says only you have ownership rights. There are already people buying up digital lots in VR games in development. Want to be a unique character with unique pets in World-of-crypto-craft? Buy the NFT's to unlock these. Want to own a special randomly generated horse in a horse race gambling game? Buy the NFT to unlock, and feed your NFT in with someone else to "breed" a new horse with chances of getting the same rare attributes (this is the concept of D-race). Want to own the rare uber-pokemon in the poke-verse to battle with others (check out Illuvium, same concept)? Buy the NFT to unlock. Sell them if you get bored for more/less money, and the game developer gets a cut! The gaming and even the gambling application scenarios are enormous. That's why crypto gaming will likely be huge and I myself have invested in it's foundations for the long term (Enjin, Seedify-fund, D-race, etc). It's one of the few applications that makes sense outside of rich snobs flexing. Tell me I'm wrong.

dgellow 5y ago
Everything you describe has been possible for decades, without the need of NFTs or other cryptocurrency concepts. Even the market aspect has been done in the past, you have for example Diablo 3's Auction House where users could trade for real money, and was a horrible gaming experience.
- iamacyborg 5y ago
  I thought the AH was great in D3, certainly light years ahead of the trade experience in Path of Exile.
- noetic_techy 5y ago
  That was mostly a walled garden trading something in 1 game for fiat. I think building your NFT on a platform that allows you to essentially escape that in game asset and let it accrue value and be tradable to assets in other games is the key. A competitor may even let your NFT from some other game unlock the equivalent weapon/item/whatever in their game. Competition of eyeballs. The dev does anything to nerf that asset or screw up how its interpreted, causing the value to crash and angry gamer, they lose the eyeball. Markets will evolve. I don't think anyone that walls off their garden will prevail. If Nintendo NFT's / coins only apply to Nintendo games, then who cares. Steam coin/NFT's for the win.
mch82 5y ago
How can Link’s sword be moved into another game? How can the value of a t-shirt in Animal Crossing be preserved beyond the life of the game?
- noetic_techy 5y ago
  You could easily say your NFT will unlock an equivalent in my come, jump ship and give me your eyeballs! True, but then again that may have to factor into the price. A game like Eve has been running for years, if not more then a decade. The longevity of your game will just increase the price. But yes, as some point your NFT may go to the graveyard unless someone else picks up the ball and says their game will support it. Its the wild west, may the best win.
piva00 5y ago
So basically... CryptoKitties? Nothing is really new under the Sun.
estel 5y ago
> Want to own the unique special edition sword with rare attributes in the Zelda-verse or the uber lazer in your favorite open world space game? Isn't my favourite open world space game ultimately managed by a centralised developer, creating a centralised game; and recognition of my "ownership" only as meaningful as the developer happy for it to be? Put it another way, what difference is there for me as a user compared to "owning" a ship in my open-world space game today?
- vimy 5y ago
  Other games or apps can import your ship.
  - XorNot 5y ago
    How? Literally how would this work? The art and assets in the game are actually copyright in the real world as property of the game developer.
    - vimy 5y ago
      Lets say you’re a Fortnite competitor. To lure people to your game you let them import their Fortnite weapons or clothes and convert them to your game equivalent.
    - s-lambert 5y ago
      An NFT doesn't include the assets, it's just a receipt ID. For a recent example, Riot has just released a bunch of tie-ins for with other games. Like the character Jinx is now in Fortnite. You could use an NFT that says this person owns the Riot character Jinx and thus the Fortnite developers could let you pick the Jinx skin in game. Although a realistic example I think it would be stupid to do in practice because why would would Epic want to give away Jinx for free just because you bought it from Riot? Then there's a much smaller advantage of having the tie-in, sure you could get cross-play between Riot games players and Fortnite players but you also lose on a quick cash win of getting Riot fans to buy a Fortnite skin.
nikanj 5y ago
What happens when a dev says "Hey the rare sword is really cool! insert into character_inventory (player, item) xxx, yyy"? The NFT is worthless bunk, because the company is free to print just as many of the items as they please.
- Jxl180 5y ago
  If the developer can insert items outside of the blockchain, then it isn’t a decentralized game. The developers are free to mint more copies of the same item as they wish, just like the US government is free to print as much cash as they wish. If they do, the markets will react and it will devalue the items drastically.
  - nikanj 5y ago
    Uhh pretty much 100% of games made today let the devs spawn objects as needed, and seems like everyone hasn't abandoned them for an NFT-based upstart.
    - Jxl180 5y ago
      I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Pretty much 100% of games today aren’t trying to push for decentralization, and we haven’t abandoned them for an NFT based MMO because the concept for gaming is extremely new, but there’s a reason people want MMOs backed by a blockchain, so to basically say it’s useless because nearly 100% of games are part of the status quo, therefore such changes are useless (or unwanted) is not a valid reason in my opinion. Just because a status quo exists, doesn’t mean the status quo shouldn’t be changed. A blockchain doesn’t stop devs from spawning objects — that’s not a concept that blockchain is trying to stop or intends to stop, but at least we’ll be able to audit exactly how many exist in the world to determine actual rarity and freely trade the items outside of the ecosystem.
Traster 5y ago
Doesn't the gaming applicaiton seem to negate some of the core aspects of crypto-currencies - the decentralization. If you want a rare artifact in the Zelda-verse, why wouldn't you buy it from nintendo? And why would nintendo want to support a 3rd party market place. I've bought some NFT from some guy - why is Nintendo going to abide by that? Why wouldn't Nintendo just set up their own store and let you trade your items there, and while they're at it they can create new items and issue them and tweak the store to control in-world inflation? What you seem to be describing is "Here's something you might want to do in a game, and here's how you could implement that with NFTs" but what you seem to be missing is I can do exactly the same thing without NFTs, and in most of your scenarios as the game developer the NFT solution gives me less flexibility, less control and potentially restrict my ability to monetize. As a game developer I need to be able to step in and fix the economy if it breaks. What you need to be doing is demonstrate scenarios that we can't trivially solve through traditional methods. The steam store already exists, you're not solving a problem by re-writing it to use NFTs.
- jcfrei 5y ago
  The steam store is very limited because Valve is worried about violating AML (anti-money laundering) requirements. With blockchains these worries can be alleviated because all transactions are visible. It could allow developers to create in-game currencies that can then be exchanged for currencies in other games: Imagine selling all your World of warcraft gold for some gold in Zelda.
  - Traster 5y ago
    Why would the blockchain help you circumvent anti-money laundering laws? Do you think Nintendo are going to be less worried about a money laundering operation than Valve?
    - jcfrei 5y ago
      Not circumvent them. You can create a system that addresses the concerns of regulators wrt money laundering. Valve offering such functionality on their steam store (without some blockchain just all transactions in their own DB) would likely get them shutdown in most countries.
garblegarble 5y ago
>Want to own the unique special edition sword with rare attributes in the Zelda-verse or the uber lazer in your favorite open world space game? Buy the NFT block chain address to it that says you and only you can have it (check out Phantom Galaxies). Where's the decentralised part there? A game maker can already add a row to their database saying your account owns the item with a lot less overhead. You already have to rely on the game maker anyway to allow you to use it in the game, whether it's a row in a table, a digitally signed message, an NFT or a paper certificate. NFTs would add lots of complexity to the cases you mentioned, but I don't see that they're bringing any value other than buzzword compliance.
- noetic_techy 5y ago
  If the developer was smart, he would build the NFT on an existing market place so as NOT to have control over its price, and in a sense de-centralizing it (even though all currencies have a foundation group pulling the levers at their core). Think Steam coins to buy steam NFT's, across multiple games. Focus on the unique aspects for your NFT to unlock whatever and create hype for your game. If someone wants to sell or trade the NFT for other NFT's in other games in said market place, then they have the ecosystem to essentially escape that in game asset to the real world and assign a real world fiat price to it. You suddenly have something that can accrue real world value the more rare/scarce it is. Like they do for in game loot, people will go nuts for it and keep farming / trading, especially if you keep adding features to someone unlocked item rather then take away from it. This also lets the developer create hype to attract players. Like owning a classic car only produced when the game launched or in the early years with long since nerfed overpowered attributes, and oh by the way you can put a modern engine inside if you want, but only if you have the NFT to unlock the engines for that type. If the dev does anything to screw that up like spamming an item or screwing with how its interpreted in game, they will have a lot of angry people deleting their game as their NFT values crash. Competition of eyeballs. I'm not saying its not going to be fraught with problems and people struggling to figure out what works and what doesn't. Some will choose to wall off their ecosystem, some won't, may the best prevail. Markets will evolve. Developer will lean the direction that makes the most money and I think that will be the direction where you have the least control over it once the NFT is in the wild. Its going to be the wild west, but so is crypto currencies in general. In fact I think crypto currencies is still in its infancy stages. Look at all the alt-coins struggling for unique aspects they bring to the table. At some point their may be one or a handful that do it all, but right now its a shit show of entrenched technologies and up and comers struggling to steal each others market cap.
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madeofpalk 5y ago
> Tell me I'm wrong. Nintendo can do this all currently. NFTs, crypto, Blockchain all have nothing to do with it. > I myself have invested in it's foundations for the long term Ahhhhhhh there it is. Normally its etiquette to start the post off with *Disclaimer: I have financially invested in foo, bar, baz which are companies that do the idea im promoting"
- noetic_techy 5y ago
  I think those who wall off their garden rather then make their NFT's open and tradable with other games on a larger market will lose. I can't trade my Nintendo unique items for a a ship in Eve Online. A dev could even play the competition of eyeballs game and say that one games NFT (built on a decentralized non-company controls platform) will unlock equivalent items in their game, so come jump ship! And honestly I was not trying to shill. Just saying I think there is an application enough to invest a little see where it goes.
  - hirsin 5y ago
    You just keep enumerating reasons why as a hypothetical game dev I'd never support NFTs. "Hey, build your platform on movable objects so that customers have no incentive to remain sticky to your game" "Hey, build your in game economy in a way that you can never fix it, leaving it open to attack by griefers or famine"
andrewxhonson 5y ago
Those exchanges with NFT's don't do anything different from storing that ownership information in a normal database, do they? The novelty in the situations you propose would be that the general public can verify ownership.
- nikanj 5y ago
  And how is that any different from WoW Armory and similar open-to-public portals that let you check the gear for a player?
- AlexandrB 5y ago
  You can do this too already. IIRC there's a web-based character viewer for WoW that lets you see equipment/stats/etc. I'm not sure what NFTs add here other than the remote possibility that you will be able to use the same NFT in a different game. The chance of this happening across franchises is vanishingly remote in my opinion though. Using NFTs for loot like this also gives a great excuse for publishers to make more games online-only, which is a net-negative as far as I'm concerned.
AlexandrB 5y ago
> All those poo-pooing NFT's will miss NFT gaming and gambling like a freight train to the face. This seems like a win-win to me. Gambling is a waste of money and NFT gaming sounds like an awful slog ("play to earn" indeed) combined with "pay to win" for those that can afford it. No thanks.
- ufo 5y ago
  Saying in the open that cryptocurrencies are good because they allow gambling is an interesting development in the ever-evolving field of excuses for why cryptocurrecy is useful. What is next, saying that ramsomware is actually a good thing?
- noetic_techy 5y ago
  Gambing is gambling. Nothing to say there. I think good devs will try to balance that pay to win aspect out. If me and my guild get together for a day long slog into level 50 of some dungeon for a guaranteed rare NFT loot drop worth $10,000 in real world fiat tradable on a open market for assets in other games, then it might be worth my while.
s-lambert 5y ago
DLC cranked up to 11, that just sounds like it will make modern games even worse.
zkldi 5y ago
The fact that other games can refer to other <items> on the blockchain doesn't implicitly mean that they'll work in every game though? The amount of effort it would take to support every item for every single game in every single game is impossible. That means developers will: 1. Have to actually care about implementing items from many other games. 2. Have to choose a subset of items to implement (the valuable ones) meaning that the only things worth owning NFTs of are the most valuable items in the game. Also, NFTs are literally just pointers to data, there would be absolutely nothing stopping any game developer from inferring hash 0cd42e... as an entirely different item, or one with entirely different stats. What appeal does this actually serve? Developers of different games and companies have to collaborate still, and they could just do that with an SQL database and APIs. Infact, that approach would be millions of times quicker, more efficient, and with no blockchain overhead.
- noetic_techy 5y ago
  I dont think you need to support multiple games, but a dev with a similar game could say that some other NFT from some other competitor game will unlock equivalent items in my game, so come on over and jump ship! Competition of eyeballs. Expecially if those NFT are not in some walled garden and built on a common platform. You could then trade NFT's from one game for NFT's in another. I'll trade you my zucker-verse penthouse for a unique ship in Eve Online! Yes, a dev could screw with interpretation, but that would likely create a lot or angry people and kill your cash cow as they move on. Zuck makes your pentouse smaller you are going to be pissed.
  - zkldi 5y ago
    > Zuck makes your pentouse smaller you are going to be pissed. And what the hell are you going to do about it? How is this any different to the arguments against centralisation that they could ban you/remove your belongings at any time? This is just centralisation again! > a dev with a similar game could say that some other NFT from some other competitor game will unlock equivalent items in my game Firstly, gamers absolutely do not want to constantly have to jump ship between clients -- that is a horrific inconvenience and you completely underestimate the network effect. Secondly, why would any developer ever implement NFTs if the benefit of them is that another developer could pluck your customers?
kall 5y ago
Is it "missing it" when I see the train, I understand the train, I believe it will be going very fast, but I don‘t want to board because it‘s going to a terrible destination?
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dgellow 5y ago

Everything you describe has been possible for decades, without the need of NFTs or other cryptocurrency concepts. Even the market aspect has been done in the past, you have for example Diablo 3's Auction House where users could trade for real money, and was a horrible gaming experience.

iamacyborg 5y ago
I thought the AH was great in D3, certainly light years ahead of the trade experience in Path of Exile.
noetic_techy 5y ago
That was mostly a walled garden trading something in 1 game for fiat. I think building your NFT on a platform that allows you to essentially escape that in game asset and let it accrue value and be tradable to assets in other games is the key. A competitor may even let your NFT from some other game unlock the equivalent weapon/item/whatever in their game. Competition of eyeballs. The dev does anything to nerf that asset or screw up how its interpreted, causing the value to crash and angry gamer, they lose the eyeball. Markets will evolve. I don't think anyone that walls off their garden will prevail. If Nintendo NFT's / coins only apply to Nintendo games, then who cares. Steam coin/NFT's for the win.

mch82 5y ago

How can Link’s sword be moved into another game? How can the value of a t-shirt in Animal Crossing be preserved beyond the life of the game?

noetic_techy 5y ago
You could easily say your NFT will unlock an equivalent in my come, jump ship and give me your eyeballs! True, but then again that may have to factor into the price. A game like Eve has been running for years, if not more then a decade. The longevity of your game will just increase the price. But yes, as some point your NFT may go to the graveyard unless someone else picks up the ball and says their game will support it. Its the wild west, may the best win.

piva00 5y ago

So basically... CryptoKitties? Nothing is really new under the Sun.

estel 5y ago

> Want to own the unique special edition sword with rare attributes in the Zelda-verse or the uber lazer in your favorite open world space game? Isn't my favourite open world space game ultimately managed by a centralised developer, creating a centralised game; and recognition of my "ownership" only as meaningful as the developer happy for it to be? Put it another way, what difference is there for me as a user compared to "owning" a ship in my open-world space game today?

vimy 5y ago
Other games or apps can import your ship.
- XorNot 5y ago
  How? Literally how would this work? The art and assets in the game are actually copyright in the real world as property of the game developer.
  - vimy 5y ago
    Lets say you’re a Fortnite competitor. To lure people to your game you let them import their Fortnite weapons or clothes and convert them to your game equivalent.
  - s-lambert 5y ago
    An NFT doesn't include the assets, it's just a receipt ID. For a recent example, Riot has just released a bunch of tie-ins for with other games. Like the character Jinx is now in Fortnite. You could use an NFT that says this person owns the Riot character Jinx and thus the Fortnite developers could let you pick the Jinx skin in game. Although a realistic example I think it would be stupid to do in practice because why would would Epic want to give away Jinx for free just because you bought it from Riot? Then there's a much smaller advantage of having the tie-in, sure you could get cross-play between Riot games players and Fortnite players but you also lose on a quick cash win of getting Riot fans to buy a Fortnite skin.

nikanj 5y ago

What happens when a dev says "Hey the rare sword is really cool! insert into character_inventory (player, item) xxx, yyy"? The NFT is worthless bunk, because the company is free to print just as many of the items as they please.

Jxl180 5y ago
If the developer can insert items outside of the blockchain, then it isn’t a decentralized game. The developers are free to mint more copies of the same item as they wish, just like the US government is free to print as much cash as they wish. If they do, the markets will react and it will devalue the items drastically.
- nikanj 5y ago
  Uhh pretty much 100% of games made today let the devs spawn objects as needed, and seems like everyone hasn't abandoned them for an NFT-based upstart.
  - Jxl180 5y ago
    I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Pretty much 100% of games today aren’t trying to push for decentralization, and we haven’t abandoned them for an NFT based MMO because the concept for gaming is extremely new, but there’s a reason people want MMOs backed by a blockchain, so to basically say it’s useless because nearly 100% of games are part of the status quo, therefore such changes are useless (or unwanted) is not a valid reason in my opinion. Just because a status quo exists, doesn’t mean the status quo shouldn’t be changed. A blockchain doesn’t stop devs from spawning objects — that’s not a concept that blockchain is trying to stop or intends to stop, but at least we’ll be able to audit exactly how many exist in the world to determine actual rarity and freely trade the items outside of the ecosystem.

Traster 5y ago

Doesn't the gaming applicaiton seem to negate some of the core aspects of crypto-currencies - the decentralization. If you want a rare artifact in the Zelda-verse, why wouldn't you buy it from nintendo? And why would nintendo want to support a 3rd party market place. I've bought some NFT from some guy - why is Nintendo going to abide by that? Why wouldn't Nintendo just set up their own store and let you trade your items there, and while they're at it they can create new items and issue them and tweak the store to control in-world inflation? What you seem to be describing is "Here's something you might want to do in a game, and here's how you could implement that with NFTs" but what you seem to be missing is I can do exactly the same thing without NFTs, and in most of your scenarios as the game developer the NFT solution gives me less flexibility, less control and potentially restrict my ability to monetize. As a game developer I need to be able to step in and fix the economy if it breaks. What you need to be doing is demonstrate scenarios that we can't trivially solve through traditional methods. The steam store already exists, you're not solving a problem by re-writing it to use NFTs.

jcfrei 5y ago
The steam store is very limited because Valve is worried about violating AML (anti-money laundering) requirements. With blockchains these worries can be alleviated because all transactions are visible. It could allow developers to create in-game currencies that can then be exchanged for currencies in other games: Imagine selling all your World of warcraft gold for some gold in Zelda.
- Traster 5y ago
  Why would the blockchain help you circumvent anti-money laundering laws? Do you think Nintendo are going to be less worried about a money laundering operation than Valve?
  - jcfrei 5y ago
    Not circumvent them. You can create a system that addresses the concerns of regulators wrt money laundering. Valve offering such functionality on their steam store (without some blockchain just all transactions in their own DB) would likely get them shutdown in most countries.

garblegarble 5y ago

>Want to own the unique special edition sword with rare attributes in the Zelda-verse or the uber lazer in your favorite open world space game? Buy the NFT block chain address to it that says you and only you can have it (check out Phantom Galaxies). Where's the decentralised part there? A game maker can already add a row to their database saying your account owns the item with a lot less overhead. You already have to rely on the game maker anyway to allow you to use it in the game, whether it's a row in a table, a digitally signed message, an NFT or a paper certificate. NFTs would add lots of complexity to the cases you mentioned, but I don't see that they're bringing any value other than buzzword compliance.

noetic_techy 5y ago
If the developer was smart, he would build the NFT on an existing market place so as NOT to have control over its price, and in a sense de-centralizing it (even though all currencies have a foundation group pulling the levers at their core). Think Steam coins to buy steam NFT's, across multiple games. Focus on the unique aspects for your NFT to unlock whatever and create hype for your game. If someone wants to sell or trade the NFT for other NFT's in other games in said market place, then they have the ecosystem to essentially escape that in game asset to the real world and assign a real world fiat price to it. You suddenly have something that can accrue real world value the more rare/scarce it is. Like they do for in game loot, people will go nuts for it and keep farming / trading, especially if you keep adding features to someone unlocked item rather then take away from it. This also lets the developer create hype to attract players. Like owning a classic car only produced when the game launched or in the early years with long since nerfed overpowered attributes, and oh by the way you can put a modern engine inside if you want, but only if you have the NFT to unlock the engines for that type. If the dev does anything to screw that up like spamming an item or screwing with how its interpreted in game, they will have a lot of angry people deleting their game as their NFT values crash. Competition of eyeballs. I'm not saying its not going to be fraught with problems and people struggling to figure out what works and what doesn't. Some will choose to wall off their ecosystem, some won't, may the best prevail. Markets will evolve. Developer will lean the direction that makes the most money and I think that will be the direction where you have the least control over it once the NFT is in the wild. Its going to be the wild west, but so is crypto currencies in general. In fact I think crypto currencies is still in its infancy stages. Look at all the alt-coins struggling for unique aspects they bring to the table. At some point their may be one or a handful that do it all, but right now its a shit show of entrenched technologies and up and comers struggling to steal each others market cap.

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madeofpalk 5y ago

> Tell me I'm wrong. Nintendo can do this all currently. NFTs, crypto, Blockchain all have nothing to do with it. > I myself have invested in it's foundations for the long term Ahhhhhhh there it is. Normally its etiquette to start the post off with *Disclaimer: I have financially invested in foo, bar, baz which are companies that do the idea im promoting"

noetic_techy 5y ago
I think those who wall off their garden rather then make their NFT's open and tradable with other games on a larger market will lose. I can't trade my Nintendo unique items for a a ship in Eve Online. A dev could even play the competition of eyeballs game and say that one games NFT (built on a decentralized non-company controls platform) will unlock equivalent items in their game, so come jump ship! And honestly I was not trying to shill. Just saying I think there is an application enough to invest a little see where it goes.
- hirsin 5y ago
  You just keep enumerating reasons why as a hypothetical game dev I'd never support NFTs. "Hey, build your platform on movable objects so that customers have no incentive to remain sticky to your game" "Hey, build your in game economy in a way that you can never fix it, leaving it open to attack by griefers or famine"

andrewxhonson 5y ago

Those exchanges with NFT's don't do anything different from storing that ownership information in a normal database, do they? The novelty in the situations you propose would be that the general public can verify ownership.

nikanj 5y ago
And how is that any different from WoW Armory and similar open-to-public portals that let you check the gear for a player?
AlexandrB 5y ago
You can do this too already. IIRC there's a web-based character viewer for WoW that lets you see equipment/stats/etc. I'm not sure what NFTs add here other than the remote possibility that you will be able to use the same NFT in a different game. The chance of this happening across franchises is vanishingly remote in my opinion though. Using NFTs for loot like this also gives a great excuse for publishers to make more games online-only, which is a net-negative as far as I'm concerned.

AlexandrB 5y ago

> All those poo-pooing NFT's will miss NFT gaming and gambling like a freight train to the face. This seems like a win-win to me. Gambling is a waste of money and NFT gaming sounds like an awful slog ("play to earn" indeed) combined with "pay to win" for those that can afford it. No thanks.

ufo 5y ago
Saying in the open that cryptocurrencies are good because they allow gambling is an interesting development in the ever-evolving field of excuses for why cryptocurrecy is useful. What is next, saying that ramsomware is actually a good thing?
noetic_techy 5y ago
Gambing is gambling. Nothing to say there. I think good devs will try to balance that pay to win aspect out. If me and my guild get together for a day long slog into level 50 of some dungeon for a guaranteed rare NFT loot drop worth $10,000 in real world fiat tradable on a open market for assets in other games, then it might be worth my while.

s-lambert 5y ago

DLC cranked up to 11, that just sounds like it will make modern games even worse.

zkldi 5y ago

The fact that other games can refer to other <items> on the blockchain doesn't implicitly mean that they'll work in every game though? The amount of effort it would take to support every item for every single game in every single game is impossible. That means developers will: 1. Have to actually care about implementing items from many other games. 2. Have to choose a subset of items to implement (the valuable ones) meaning that the only things worth owning NFTs of are the most valuable items in the game. Also, NFTs are literally just pointers to data, there would be absolutely nothing stopping any game developer from inferring hash 0cd42e... as an entirely different item, or one with entirely different stats. What appeal does this actually serve? Developers of different games and companies have to collaborate still, and they could just do that with an SQL database and APIs. Infact, that approach would be millions of times quicker, more efficient, and with no blockchain overhead.

noetic_techy 5y ago
I dont think you need to support multiple games, but a dev with a similar game could say that some other NFT from some other competitor game will unlock equivalent items in my game, so come on over and jump ship! Competition of eyeballs. Expecially if those NFT are not in some walled garden and built on a common platform. You could then trade NFT's from one game for NFT's in another. I'll trade you my zucker-verse penthouse for a unique ship in Eve Online! Yes, a dev could screw with interpretation, but that would likely create a lot or angry people and kill your cash cow as they move on. Zuck makes your pentouse smaller you are going to be pissed.
- zkldi 5y ago
  > Zuck makes your pentouse smaller you are going to be pissed. And what the hell are you going to do about it? How is this any different to the arguments against centralisation that they could ban you/remove your belongings at any time? This is just centralisation again! > a dev with a similar game could say that some other NFT from some other competitor game will unlock equivalent items in my game Firstly, gamers absolutely do not want to constantly have to jump ship between clients -- that is a horrific inconvenience and you completely underestimate the network effect. Secondly, why would any developer ever implement NFTs if the benefit of them is that another developer could pluck your customers?

kall 5y ago

Is it "missing it" when I see the train, I understand the train, I believe it will be going very fast, but I don‘t want to board because it‘s going to a terrible destination?

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