> The predominant, most prosperous, safest, most free societies have been the internationalist ones, in Europe, the US, Canada, Japan, S Korea, etc etc. I can'

> The predominant, most prosperous, safest, most free societies have been the internationalist ones, in Europe, the US, Canada, Japan, S Korea, etc etc. I can't speak about US, Canada, Japan, S Korea, etc etc., but Europe is the birthplace of the nation state. In fact the current state of Europe (such as for example the fact that my home country exists in the first place, and isn't instead a province of Germany or Austria) is a direct result of nationalism. > Imagine science without internationalism. Imagine the IT industry - FOSS has contributors world-wide; the web was developed in Switzerland by a Brit, and shared by the world. Linux in Finland, etc. A red herring. Dictatorships (such as USSR) censored international communication, but nation states did not.