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I have to disagree on that model. That may work for dudes who aren't confident and can barely make a decent profile. But for guys who can, it would be extremely

I have to disagree on that model. That may work for dudes who aren't confident and can barely make a decent profile. But for guys who can, it would be extremely annoying that I have to pay to attempt to date someone I'm not really that interested in. Vice versa for the women as well. Now you're giving them another reason to not consider you because they have to pay money too. The solution exists. It's natural selection. Unfortunately a lot of guys (especially in the midwest where I'm in) just do not understand how to game the system. I've been on enumerable dates. I am by all means a loser who peaked in high school then bounced back 9 years later and never even had a real relationship. So how was I successful? Pictures. With friends, in public, signaling social intelligence, and showing hobbies that interest women. Most guys take just cringy pictures that scream "Not only am I a loser, but I'm so depressed I'm embarrassed to do things in front of other people." That is why no girls want to date them. Even the very low status ones. Also, being confident and just being capable of holding a conversation is basically required.

indigo945 5y ago
You don't understand the problem the parent commenter is talking about. This isn't about who is or isn't successful, it's about incentive structures, and the degree to which dating service providers have an interest in having more or less people find love. Currently, people finding partners and being happy means that dating service providers lose money, which means that they will deliberately show you partners that are less interesting to you, to make sure you keep feeling unhappy and come back to the app for another try. Your experience actually corroborates this, as most people do not want to do a lot of serial dating, and your advice is all about serial dating.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  That's the game. An incentive structure will not fix that.
maest 5y ago
> I've been on enumerable dates. That gave me a chuckle and reminded me of my friend's complaint that they were "continuously going on dates"
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  I know it sounds douchey but it's how to play the game. I just stopped. I lost complete interest in it at this point. My hobbies are more interesting.
  - titanomachy 5y ago
    The joke is that “innumerable” means “so many I can’t count them”, while “enumerable” means the opposite of that.
titanomachy 5y ago
> Most guys take just cringy pictures that scream "Not only am I a loser, but I'm so depressed I'm embarrassed to do things in front of other people. From swiping through dating apps with women, it seems like men in my city at least are trying pretty hard. Most have dating profiles with high-quality pictures of themselves doing interesting things with their friends. I don’t see a lot of the profiles you’re talking about.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  I live in the midwest filled with lonely losers.

indigo945 5y ago

You don't understand the problem the parent commenter is talking about. This isn't about who is or isn't successful, it's about incentive structures, and the degree to which dating service providers have an interest in having more or less people find love. Currently, people finding partners and being happy means that dating service providers lose money, which means that they will deliberately show you partners that are less interesting to you, to make sure you keep feeling unhappy and come back to the app for another try. Your experience actually corroborates this, as most people do not want to do a lot of serial dating, and your advice is all about serial dating.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
That's the game. An incentive structure will not fix that.

maest 5y ago

> I've been on enumerable dates. That gave me a chuckle and reminded me of my friend's complaint that they were "continuously going on dates"

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
I know it sounds douchey but it's how to play the game. I just stopped. I lost complete interest in it at this point. My hobbies are more interesting.
- titanomachy 5y ago
  The joke is that “innumerable” means “so many I can’t count them”, while “enumerable” means the opposite of that.

titanomachy 5y ago

> Most guys take just cringy pictures that scream "Not only am I a loser, but I'm so depressed I'm embarrassed to do things in front of other people. From swiping through dating apps with women, it seems like men in my city at least are trying pretty hard. Most have dating profiles with high-quality pictures of themselves doing interesting things with their friends. I don’t see a lot of the profiles you’re talking about.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
I live in the midwest filled with lonely losers.