3 ms·

Every architect I've met is like a jaded COBOL programmer at the government that refuses to leave their niche because change increases the chances of you gettin

Every architect I've met is like a jaded COBOL programmer at the government that refuses to leave their niche because change increases the chances of you getting fired.

chasd00 5y ago
That’s a good way to put it. I know a number of architects, 99.9% design the equivalent of Taco Bell’s. Unless you’re exceptional it’s a very mind numbin job where you’re easily replaceable (like most everything else).
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
galfarragem 5y ago
Architect here. From my experience I would say completely the oposite, every intern is a Idris or at least a Haskell programmer. Architectural offices, soon or later, will make them Java programmers. COBOL programmers are the government authorities and the typical investor.
- abrowne 5y ago
  I remember reading that architects have one of the highest job dissatisfaction rates in the US. Which makes sense comparing the kinds of projects I saw the architecture students due in college with the architects I've met, whose excitement is designing the ductwork in strip-mall Target stores.
  - MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
    My uncle is an architect and he's desperately trying to retire. It's so obvious that he was only in it for the money.
- coffeemig 5y ago
  I kind of always wanted to be an architect, and my skillset largely seems inclined toward it; so much so that growing up, my dad was sure it was what I’d do. But EVERY exposure I had to young people in the industry, and even education to an extent (Saw a passionate friend quit the UMich program) belied the sentiment we’re bemoaning here. I wound up consigning my impulses to representational painting. Out of curiosity, before modernism, what would an architecture curriculum have looked like? Are there any foundational texts? *I don’t hate modernism, lots of it is pretty cool. However, I hate what it did to the pedagogy of painting. It set me back ten years because it was so hard to find anyone who knew what they were talking about. Western art departments figuratively and literally destroyed the basis for teaching representational aesthetics, which had been developed for thousands of years, and then celebrated themselves for doing so. Now, relatively, no one knows how to draw. I suspect something similar happened in architecture, and in light of that, I don’t know who to trust or approach on how to start self-learning. I’ll never build cool buildings, but I can design them and use architecture to inform my painting.
  - galfarragem 5y ago
    > Are there any foundational texts? The treatise on Architecture from Vitruvius, a Roman architect. This is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_architectura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_architectura

Every architect I've met is like a jaded COBOL programmer at the government that refuses to leave their niche because change increases the chances of you getting fired.

chasd00 5y ago

That’s a good way to put it. I know a number of architects, 99.9% design the equivalent of Taco Bell’s. Unless you’re exceptional it’s a very mind numbin job where you’re easily replaceable (like most everything else).

deleted 5y ago
[deleted]

galfarragem 5y ago

Architect here. From my experience I would say completely the oposite, every intern is a Idris or at least a Haskell programmer. Architectural offices, soon or later, will make them Java programmers. COBOL programmers are the government authorities and the typical investor.

abrowne 5y ago
I remember reading that architects have one of the highest job dissatisfaction rates in the US. Which makes sense comparing the kinds of projects I saw the architecture students due in college with the architects I've met, whose excitement is designing the ductwork in strip-mall Target stores.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  My uncle is an architect and he's desperately trying to retire. It's so obvious that he was only in it for the money.
coffeemig 5y ago
I kind of always wanted to be an architect, and my skillset largely seems inclined toward it; so much so that growing up, my dad was sure it was what I’d do. But EVERY exposure I had to young people in the industry, and even education to an extent (Saw a passionate friend quit the UMich program) belied the sentiment we’re bemoaning here. I wound up consigning my impulses to representational painting. Out of curiosity, before modernism, what would an architecture curriculum have looked like? Are there any foundational texts? *I don’t hate modernism, lots of it is pretty cool. However, I hate what it did to the pedagogy of painting. It set me back ten years because it was so hard to find anyone who knew what they were talking about. Western art departments figuratively and literally destroyed the basis for teaching representational aesthetics, which had been developed for thousands of years, and then celebrated themselves for doing so. Now, relatively, no one knows how to draw. I suspect something similar happened in architecture, and in light of that, I don’t know who to trust or approach on how to start self-learning. I’ll never build cool buildings, but I can design them and use architecture to inform my painting.
- galfarragem 5y ago
  > Are there any foundational texts? The treatise on Architecture from Vitruvius, a Roman architect. This is it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_architectura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_architectura