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What i learned from this: if you piss off the USA, you can't travel freely and brave your invulnerability. You should be sitting quiet in Russia, which won't ex
by kvakvs 5y ago
What i learned from this: if you piss off the USA, you can't travel freely and brave your invulnerability. You should be sitting quiet in Russia, which won't extradite you, and not flash your stolen money. Because if you do, your local bandits will find you, and if you don't, the USA will find you.
- deeter72 5y agoInside russia you can flex as much as you want. Case in point "Maksim Yakubets" of Evil Corp. Who drives a camo'd lamborghini with the plate "Thief".. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moscow-cyberthief-wanted-for-stealing-millions-from-britons-jz3s952rs https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/moscow-cyberthief-wanted-...
- sydthrowaway 5y agoThis is shocking. God, what a corrupt state.
- 4ggr0 5y agoYes, contrary to the US which isn't corrupt, right. I am neither american nor russian by the way. And although my own country is officially not really corrupt, we also have our fair share of lobbies and non-prosecuted crimes when someone higher up fucks something up. EDIT: Looking at the downvotes I guess people think I hate the US while defending Russia or whatever. Actually I think every country or rather it's government has flaws with intransparency or legal corruption, just in different areas. US has shady financial things, Russia is apparently in the hacking space, my country has it's shady areas as well etc. Don't take my comment as an attack towards the US as a whole or as a way to say Russia does nothing wrong.
- doublea 5y agoFinally, pure whataboutism.
- Chris2048 5y agoWhen attacking Russia for a specific thing, bringing up the misdeeds of the US are a distraction, and "whataboutism". When comparing the morality of the two nations (or criticising the "world police" status of the US as hypocritical) recalling American misdeeds is appropriate. In the case the post was "what a corrupt state", attacking character of Russia generally, hence it's appropriate. It's worth pointing out that OJ Simpson published a book "If I did it", which could be seen as morally unacceptable too - but then there would be a difference between "that's terrible" and "America is terrible".
- 4ggr0 5y agoNot really in my opinion. The poster was expressing that they're shocked, saying what a corrput state Russia was. And I don't quite understand why they're shocked and presumed that they're from the US. I didn't try to deflect by saying "Russia isn't a dangerously corrput state because look at the US", I tried to say "Why are you shocked about Russia when your own country has it's problems with corruption too." Hope that makes sense and that I'm now not registered as a russian astro-turfer.
- rank0 5y agoFor some reason everyone on this site sees the term “whataboutism” as an immediate way to invalidate a statement they disagree with. I believe OPs point was that in fact, Russia is as corrupt as other world powers…so you shouldn’t be shocked by their tolerance of cyber criminals.
- csomar 5y agoHow is this particular instance "corruption". The guy violated US laws which Russia do not "harmonize". This is similar to a US-based person who is attacking Putin in the media. It's illegal in Russia, but would that make the US extradite him?
- flerchin 5y agoThievery is illegal in Russia too.
- csomar 5y agoBut the theft is happening outside of Russia, so a Russian court could not pursue.
- steve76 5y ago[dead]
- sydthrowaway 5y agoWhat would happen if you stole $1bn in Russia and escaped to the US?
- tata71 5y agoYou'd make a federated, censorship-resilient sometimes-encrypted chat app.
- randerson 5y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHY6VEurPA4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHY6VEurPA4
- kvakvs 5y agoThe probably he has connections with the corrupt police or criminals. A nobody can't really drive a custom lambo and not get noticed.
- ushakov 5y agoit also helps not having a VK account tied to your "business" e-mail
- ComodoHacker 5y agoUS specifically negotiated with Russia to get help with this case: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/31/world/europe/biden-putin-russia-united-states.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/31/world/europe/biden-putin-... Besides, in Russia you're not safe for a bunch of other reasons.
- ur-whale 5y ago>Besides, in Russia you're not safe for a bunch of other reasons. It all depends how cozy/useful you are with/to the state apparatus.
- markus_zhang 5y agoNever fight a strong state I guess...
- redisman 5y agoI would not recommend attacking infrastructure in China or Russia either if you want to sleep easy at night
- swarnie 5y agoI'd be requesting hotel rooms on the ground floor for life personally.
- martin_a 5y agoAh, with winter coming around, even crosswalks can be slippery and you could fall and break your neck.
- EdwardDiego 5y agoWatch out for people with umbrellas, or offering cups of tea.
- swarnie 5y agoHaving grown up in Wiltshire we're already we'll versed in 123 m spire techniques comrade.
- fulafel 5y agoI think that's.. what's the opposite of survivorship bias?
- dredmorbius 5y agoI'm pretty sure that's still survivorship bias. Perhaps an availability heuristic: the ones we know about are the ones that have been caught. SB/AH are fairly tightly coupled. Also Texas Sharpshooter.