> Jony Ive was only able to get away with the damaging push to flat design after Steve Jobs died Sadly, true. > and since Ive has left Apple, beautiful skeuom

> Jony Ive was only able to get away with the damaging push to flat design after Steve Jobs died Sadly, true. > and since Ive has left Apple, beautiful skeuomorphic gradients, lighting, embosses, drop shadows, and photo-real elements, have started to return. Not really. Where have you seen this return? It hasn't, not in any significant way. The damage Ive did seems more or less permanent. Jony Ive is only part of the problem. The other problems is hatred towards Scott Forstall. Since Scott was a proponent of skeuomorphism, one way remaining Apple execs stuck it to Forestall is by losing skeuomorphism, and then opening deriding skeuomorphism during the reveal of iOS7.