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>It was already clear, what will happen next. Is it? The attempted murder of innocent people? Is that the sort of behaviour that should be accepted and tolerat

>It was already clear, what will happen next. Is it? The attempted murder of innocent people? Is that the sort of behaviour that should be accepted and tolerated? because it sounds like you are saying that.

int_19h 5y ago
It shouldn't be accepted and tolerated, but it's disingenuous to discuss it without mentioning the reasons why it happened in the first place.
CapricornNoble 5y ago
I think he's saying the turn of events is tragically predictable, and we SHOULDN'T accept or tolerate it. That was my reading, anyway.
helge9210 5y ago
> The attempted murder of innocent people? In your opinion, what should a teenager do after witnessing extrajudicial execution of his relative by occupying army?
- FridayoLeary 5y ago
  In your opinion, how should the IDF act do if they know that every teenager can become a potential mass murderer? Your words, not mine. Bear in mind that soldiers are people and they can feel emotions such as fear and anger over dead comrades. Of course unjustified violence is not right, but you can't exactly expect them to engage in community relationships. They also can't ignore the status quo which involves terrorists acting with impunity like in the intafadas.
  - helge9210 5y ago
    > how should the IDF act do Solution is simple: end the occupation. > which involves terrorists Your terrorists are someone else's freedom fighters.
    - poisonarena 5y ago
      > Solution is simple: end the occupation. That is not an answer, might as well have just written "Free Palestine!" I would be interested in hearing your real solution, instead of just repeating a slogan. Nobody has been able to figure it out for decades.
      - helge9210 5y ago
        This depends on what is the desired outcome. Currently our real goals are defined by Lebensraum ideology. Of course, ending the occupation is not helping here. The moment we ditch colonial dreams and ideas of racial superiority (as a base for Zionism), there are two possible solutions: pull out settlements, pull out army or annex all the territories, give citizenship to all residents. In both cases, , start preparation for return of refugees and work out compensation (like Germany after WW2).
        poisonarena 5y ago
        I dont think you are israeli,not that I dont agree with your points, but because I dont think you are talking like one. I think you are from Russia or an arab larping as an israeli
        helge9210 5y ago
        Where to should I send my proof of citizenship and results of testing for STDs?

int_19h 5y ago

It shouldn't be accepted and tolerated, but it's disingenuous to discuss it without mentioning the reasons why it happened in the first place.

CapricornNoble 5y ago

I think he's saying the turn of events is tragically predictable, and we SHOULDN'T accept or tolerate it. That was my reading, anyway.

helge9210 5y ago

> The attempted murder of innocent people? In your opinion, what should a teenager do after witnessing extrajudicial execution of his relative by occupying army?

FridayoLeary 5y ago
In your opinion, how should the IDF act do if they know that every teenager can become a potential mass murderer? Your words, not mine. Bear in mind that soldiers are people and they can feel emotions such as fear and anger over dead comrades. Of course unjustified violence is not right, but you can't exactly expect them to engage in community relationships. They also can't ignore the status quo which involves terrorists acting with impunity like in the intafadas.
- helge9210 5y ago
  > how should the IDF act do Solution is simple: end the occupation. > which involves terrorists Your terrorists are someone else's freedom fighters.
  - poisonarena 5y ago
    > Solution is simple: end the occupation. That is not an answer, might as well have just written "Free Palestine!" I would be interested in hearing your real solution, instead of just repeating a slogan. Nobody has been able to figure it out for decades.
    - helge9210 5y ago
      This depends on what is the desired outcome. Currently our real goals are defined by Lebensraum ideology. Of course, ending the occupation is not helping here. The moment we ditch colonial dreams and ideas of racial superiority (as a base for Zionism), there are two possible solutions: pull out settlements, pull out army or annex all the territories, give citizenship to all residents. In both cases, , start preparation for return of refugees and work out compensation (like Germany after WW2).
      - poisonarena 5y ago
        I dont think you are israeli,not that I dont agree with your points, but because I dont think you are talking like one. I think you are from Russia or an arab larping as an israeli
        helge9210 5y ago
        Where to should I send my proof of citizenship and results of testing for STDs?