Having grown up with a garden, I just don't see how industrial scale "organic" anything is even possible. _All sorts_ of bugs will simply devour your produce an

Having grown up with a garden, I just don't see how industrial scale "organic" anything is even possible. _All sorts_ of bugs will simply devour your produce and fruit and nothing will be left to sell if you don't use pesticides. And this will happen _every year_ like clockwork, often several times a year, with different bugs. And soil will turn to shit within a few years if you don't use fertilizers (manure at a minimum, which, by the way, is high in nitrates, same as "inorganic" fertilizer), even though you rotate crops. So yeah, I do think it's a scam for city people who have no idea how farming works.