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I am very frustrated and confused by your usage of the term "increase relevance" when it seems to me that Pinterest did exactly the opposite: provide images wit

I am very frustrated and confused by your usage of the term "increase relevance" when it seems to me that Pinterest did exactly the opposite: provide images without context, without relevance. It's a situation many people are very upset about, as indicated in the article. Why did you do it?

dang 5y ago
Please don't pounce on someone like this—it's clearly against the site guidelines: "Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine." (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) Flogging people disincentivizes them from showing up to discuss what they actually know about (i.e. their work), which is a strictly bad tradeoff for HN. You can make all your substantive points without that, so please do it that way instead. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=disincent%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=disincent%20by:dang&dateRange=...
- jordigh 5y ago
  I reworded my comment. Is that better?
  - dang 5y ago
    It's certainly better but it's still not great.
joshenders 5y ago
> You have us completely irrelevant hits. Pinterest is intentionally designed to facilitate rich context around images. That’s kind of the whole idea and value proposition of the service. Most “Pins” are created with the Pin-it button browser extension or JavaScript embed which associates the website the image is on and other context with that image and retained when “uploaded” to Pinterest. In the long tail, yes- there are Pins that are void of context because of incorrect user submission (direct image upload) or broken links as a result of the website owner not redirecting when the content is moved. This was a continuous problem that everybody was interested in solving.
- mission_failed 5y ago
  How do you facilitate context when every single link takes you to a forced login screen with no context showing of the image link you clicked?
  - joshenders 5y ago
    You’re mischaracterizing the user experience. As a logged out user the signup nag can be easily closed or ignored and is identical to the logged in user’s. Often times Pinterest has a copy of the image and metadata when the original site may be offline.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
I don't really even mind pinterest being there but they shouldn't have more than 1 picture per say every 20 or 30 pictures.
- joshenders 5y ago
  Your frustration may be better directed at Google then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

dang 5y ago

Please don't pounce on someone like this—it's clearly against the site guidelines: "Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine." (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) Flogging people disincentivizes them from showing up to discuss what they actually know about (i.e. their work), which is a strictly bad tradeoff for HN. You can make all your substantive points without that, so please do it that way instead. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=disincent%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=disincent%20by:dang&dateRange=...

jordigh 5y ago
I reworded my comment. Is that better?
- dang 5y ago
  It's certainly better but it's still not great.

joshenders 5y ago

> You have us completely irrelevant hits. Pinterest is intentionally designed to facilitate rich context around images. That’s kind of the whole idea and value proposition of the service. Most “Pins” are created with the Pin-it button browser extension or JavaScript embed which associates the website the image is on and other context with that image and retained when “uploaded” to Pinterest. In the long tail, yes- there are Pins that are void of context because of incorrect user submission (direct image upload) or broken links as a result of the website owner not redirecting when the content is moved. This was a continuous problem that everybody was interested in solving.

mission_failed 5y ago
How do you facilitate context when every single link takes you to a forced login screen with no context showing of the image link you clicked?
- joshenders 5y ago
  You’re mischaracterizing the user experience. As a logged out user the signup nag can be easily closed or ignored and is identical to the logged in user’s. Often times Pinterest has a copy of the image and metadata when the original site may be offline.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

I don't really even mind pinterest being there but they shouldn't have more than 1 picture per say every 20 or 30 pictures.

joshenders 5y ago
Your frustration may be better directed at Google then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯