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This is hands down one of the worst takes I have seen in a while. I'm a big fan of Substack, but advertising isn't bad. I run a business that makes money from a

by aml183 5y ago

This is hands down one of the worst takes I have seen in a while. I'm a big fan of Substack, but advertising isn't bad. I run a business that makes money from advertising. It's a good business model that benefits consumers and companies. I'm happy to go into detail if anyone cares.

MildlySerious 5y ago
> It's a good business model that benefits consumers and companies. I think that can be true, but comes with some big IFs attached which tend to ruin it in practice. Privacy is the big one. I don't think that needs any further explanation at this point. Attention span and lack of a way out are the other ones. As a user, I know and respect that creators and services need to make money. But if the only option is to turn me into the product by monetizing my data, screen estate and attention span, which is already running low anyway, I'm out. I'm sorry, but I'm just over it and I will instead spend five minutes of my time to find an alternative and spare future me from the constant brain and data drain. Unless, that is, I can give you money to never see another ad, at a price that feels appropriate for the value I get out of being able to continue using that site.
convolvatron 5y ago
please. how does it help me as a consumer?
- jjk166 5y ago
  Do you have material needs and desires but weren't born with a priori knowledge of all possible goods and services that might satisfy those needs and desires?
  - smadge 5y ago
    Most newborns do not rely on commercial advertisements to learn how to satisfy their needs and desires.
    - lillecarl 5y ago
      We're not newborns our entire lives either, that logic doesn't work. Advertising is "natural", targeted AI curated reaction trash isn't though.
    - jjk166 5y ago
      Okay, well I'm sorry you're too young to benefit from advertising, but your parents who change your diaper and everyone else old enough to be considered a consumer certainly do.
- blvcklotcs 5y ago
  Keeps free shit free

by aml183 5y ago

MildlySerious 5y ago

> It's a good business model that benefits consumers and companies. I think that can be true, but comes with some big IFs attached which tend to ruin it in practice. Privacy is the big one. I don't think that needs any further explanation at this point. Attention span and lack of a way out are the other ones. As a user, I know and respect that creators and services need to make money. But if the only option is to turn me into the product by monetizing my data, screen estate and attention span, which is already running low anyway, I'm out. I'm sorry, but I'm just over it and I will instead spend five minutes of my time to find an alternative and spare future me from the constant brain and data drain. Unless, that is, I can give you money to never see another ad, at a price that feels appropriate for the value I get out of being able to continue using that site.

convolvatron 5y ago

please. how does it help me as a consumer?

jjk166 5y ago
Do you have material needs and desires but weren't born with a priori knowledge of all possible goods and services that might satisfy those needs and desires?
- smadge 5y ago
  Most newborns do not rely on commercial advertisements to learn how to satisfy their needs and desires.
  - lillecarl 5y ago
    We're not newborns our entire lives either, that logic doesn't work. Advertising is "natural", targeted AI curated reaction trash isn't though.
  - jjk166 5y ago
    Okay, well I'm sorry you're too young to benefit from advertising, but your parents who change your diaper and everyone else old enough to be considered a consumer certainly do.
blvcklotcs 5y ago
Keeps free shit free