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Google prioritizes results from higher ranking sites. This is what PageRank was all about. It's entirely within Google's power to score Pinterest results lower,
by thinkling 5y ago
Google prioritizes results from higher ranking sites. This is what PageRank was all about. It's entirely within Google's power to score Pinterest results lower, pushing them down in the search results. Seems like a Google problem to me, not a Pinterest problem.
- kingcharles 5y agoEven Pinterest says this is a Google problem. Pinterest can do what the fuck it likes with its web site and how it exposes its HTML to the world - it is Google that needs to decide if it wants these results. I actually want Google to include these results, but I want it to warn me somehow so that I can make a choice to click on the result or not. If Pinterest is the only possible source for the image then I might make the choice to "pay" Pinternet (by giving them my info) in order to obtain the image.
- dredmorbius 5y agoPinterest's response is noncredible. We've got a former Pinterest employee on this thread describing how they'd specifically manipulated SEO for high SERP rankings. A commercial enterprise doesn't dedicate resources to a "growth SEO team" which coordinates efforts between Pinterest and Google if it doesn't expect a positive benefit from the effort. But passing the buck to Google for the situation is a manifest and insincere attempt to absolve Pinterest of its culpability and role in precisely the issue TFA is addressing. No: blame lies squarely with Pinterest, though Google are contributing.
- 22c 5y agoBeing manipulated by "SEO hacking" tactics IS a Google problem (or search engine problem) to solve. Even as far back as the 90s many sites were putting "invisible" paragraphs in their pages to boost site ranking with often completely irrelevant keywords to what was actually on the page. The early search engines that made it were the ones who put in the engineering effort to filter these kinds of tactics out. Google is just resting on their laurels as top dog in the search space and has been for a very long time.
- dredmorbius 5y agoActively engaging in that manipulation refutes the message that the problem is strictly Google's. But I'm repeating myself. Disengenuous argument is disengenuous.
- godDLL 5y agoSo, all one needs to do to rise up in Google results is the kind of thing Pinterest is doing, you're saying? Meaning what they are doing works? And has been for years, surviving algo changes by Google? Would that not be a first?
- dredmorbius 5y agoThe question we're discussing is whether or not Pinterest's claim that this is all Google's fault is credible. If you'd like to have a different discussion, you'll be wanting to have that with someone else. Yes, Google have a problem. At best, Pinterest exploited it. At worst, they actively worked with Google for some presumptive mutual benefit, screwing over the rest of the Web community. Either way, Pinterest are culpable.
- godDLL 5y agoWho exactly, and how much accountable would you hold? At pinterest.
- dredmorbius 5y agoIrrelevant question. The proper response is to cut Pinterest out of search results.
- godDLL 5y agoYou did answer then. Everyone, and their immediate family. That's quite communist, don't you find?
- ajsnigrutin 5y agoThen the pagerank is broken. Millions of daily clicks on their links, two seconds, then back to search results,... this should really bring their pagerank down, because it implies users don't want to stay on that page for more than a few seconds and prefer other results.