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This title is quite editorialized. The whole controversy is over whether these are human rights organizations as this website claims, or terrorist groups as the

by lacker 5y ago

This title is quite editorialized. The whole controversy is over whether these are human rights organizations as this website claims, or terrorist groups as the Israeli government claims. It should not be a surprise that the NSO group, as an Israeli company, is working against groups that the Israeli government considers to be terrorists.

VictorPath 5y ago
> human rights organizations as this website claims, or terrorist groups as the Israeli government claims. These NGOs get funding from the European Union, and Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch condemned Israel outlawing these human rights NGOs - so it Israel against not just this magazine, but the EU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch etc.
- jjcon 5y ago
  The EU and US etc are also bankrolling these israeli operations so im not really sure the funding argument holds up well here
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  The EU being that terrorist organization whose member states orchestrated and funded the destruction of Libya, among other atrocities? Not sure that lends much credibility to the proxy organizations they fund and influence. This is not some benevolent group dedicated to improving and protecting life around the globe. It is a corrupt, morally bankrupt hive of war criminals and arms profiteers. If ever they pretend to care for someone who is not rich, it is obviously with ulterior motive.
hanniabu 5y ago
> against groups that the Israeli government considers to be terrorists Basically any Palestinian is a terrorist in the eyes of the Israeli government because it allows them to justify their oppression, theft, and murders.
- starik36 5y ago
  Your comment smells of generalization, unfairness, lack of subtlety and antisemitism a bit, don't you think?
golemiprague 5y ago
It doesn't even matter if it is a terrorist organisation or not. The Arabs that call themselves "Palestinians" want to conquer and destroy Israel, it is clearly and explicitly written in the Hamas charter, the de facto "constitution" of Gaza. The ones in the west bank want the same thing but they hide behind calling it "the right of return", basically demanding that Israel will let about 10 million Arabs to "return" to Israel, or in other words, conquer it. So basically Gaza and the Arabs in Judea and Samaria (the west bank) and many other Arab states in the region are enemy entities to the state of Israel, whether they use terrorism or just regular "legal" military operations and political activities. As such, there is no surprise Israel is spying after them like any country would do against their enemies, even if they are not terrorists.

by lacker 5y ago

VictorPath 5y ago

> human rights organizations as this website claims, or terrorist groups as the Israeli government claims. These NGOs get funding from the European Union, and Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch condemned Israel outlawing these human rights NGOs - so it Israel against not just this magazine, but the EU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch etc.

jjcon 5y ago
The EU and US etc are also bankrolling these israeli operations so im not really sure the funding argument holds up well here
throwawaylinux 5y ago
The EU being that terrorist organization whose member states orchestrated and funded the destruction of Libya, among other atrocities? Not sure that lends much credibility to the proxy organizations they fund and influence. This is not some benevolent group dedicated to improving and protecting life around the globe. It is a corrupt, morally bankrupt hive of war criminals and arms profiteers. If ever they pretend to care for someone who is not rich, it is obviously with ulterior motive.

hanniabu 5y ago

> against groups that the Israeli government considers to be terrorists Basically any Palestinian is a terrorist in the eyes of the Israeli government because it allows them to justify their oppression, theft, and murders.

starik36 5y ago
Your comment smells of generalization, unfairness, lack of subtlety and antisemitism a bit, don't you think?

golemiprague 5y ago

It doesn't even matter if it is a terrorist organisation or not. The Arabs that call themselves "Palestinians" want to conquer and destroy Israel, it is clearly and explicitly written in the Hamas charter, the de facto "constitution" of Gaza. The ones in the west bank want the same thing but they hide behind calling it "the right of return", basically demanding that Israel will let about 10 million Arabs to "return" to Israel, or in other words, conquer it. So basically Gaza and the Arabs in Judea and Samaria (the west bank) and many other Arab states in the region are enemy entities to the state of Israel, whether they use terrorism or just regular "legal" military operations and political activities. As such, there is no surprise Israel is spying after them like any country would do against their enemies, even if they are not terrorists.