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How much skin would you be happy having removed from your daughter's clitoris before you'd consider it mutilation? Answer in cm². The reality is that so much a

How much skin would you be happy having removed from your daughter's clitoris before you'd consider it mutilation? Answer in cm². The reality is that so much as a pin-prick or tiny cut (to draw a drop of blood or leave a small mark) is counted[1] and prosecuted[2] as FGM. If the word mutilation fits there, it certainly fits male circumcision. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37819753 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37819753 [2] https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/09/16/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-secret-network-doctors/8365052002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/09/16/female-...

auggierose 5y ago
The difference is that one has no health benefits whatsoever. Its done for all the wrong reasons. That's why it is called FGM. The other one, circumcision, has actual health benefits when carried out properly. Like preventing all sorts of stuff accumulating under your foreskin, and also preventing phimosis. So you really want to discuss these two totally different things under the same topic? That's ridiculous.
- ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 5y ago
  You can tell that someone is not discussing in good faith when, after having one of their arguments dismantled, they conjure up a new one and carry on talking condescendingly. Accept that you were humiliatingly wrong with your last comment, and I will engage with this new set of inane reasons why cutting up baby penises is totally fine. That said, here's a teaser: which sex is more likely to get UTIs?
- FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
  Ignorance. Indian Hindus do not circumcise their sons. Neither do Chinese people. Or Europeans. Their penises are all fine. You probably know many people with pet dogs. How many of them have circumcised their dogs? How often do the dogs shower? Do they get horrible penis diseases? No. Of course not. (Seriously, have you ever wondered why dogs don't have a glans sticking out? Or horses? Or any other mammal that doesn't wear pants? This is staring you in the face.) Nothing is going to accumulate under your foreskin, because it unrolls every time you have an erection. That's the point, actually: The sensitive inner skin unrolls to cover the shaft of your erect penis; that's what makes it sensitive. If you are circumcised, what happens instead is that the hairy and insensitive skin from your scrotum and abdomen is pulled forward over the shaft instead. If you have a really strong erection this will actually hurt, as the skin is stretched too much; there is nothing to unroll. This is staring you in the face. If you have any experience of penises -- perhaps your own -- then you have actual evidence you can see with your own eyes. Have you ever had a sex partner who wasn't an American? I think these beliefs persist in the US largely because of insularity.
  - auggierose 5y ago
    Lol. I am not American. It seems you are the ignorant one, making assumptions because you are too lazy to properly think about my arguments.
    - ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 5y ago
      He dedicated most of his comment to your arguments, which is why you're focusing only on the last two sentences. You've let yourself be humiliated again, and for what? Bizarre.
      - auggierose 5y ago
        Just saw this comment. Don't worry, I am not humiliated by random Internet people. Your names look a lot alike, is that coincidence?

auggierose 5y ago

The difference is that one has no health benefits whatsoever. Its done for all the wrong reasons. That's why it is called FGM. The other one, circumcision, has actual health benefits when carried out properly. Like preventing all sorts of stuff accumulating under your foreskin, and also preventing phimosis. So you really want to discuss these two totally different things under the same topic? That's ridiculous.

ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 5y ago
You can tell that someone is not discussing in good faith when, after having one of their arguments dismantled, they conjure up a new one and carry on talking condescendingly. Accept that you were humiliatingly wrong with your last comment, and I will engage with this new set of inane reasons why cutting up baby penises is totally fine. That said, here's a teaser: which sex is more likely to get UTIs?
FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
Ignorance. Indian Hindus do not circumcise their sons. Neither do Chinese people. Or Europeans. Their penises are all fine. You probably know many people with pet dogs. How many of them have circumcised their dogs? How often do the dogs shower? Do they get horrible penis diseases? No. Of course not. (Seriously, have you ever wondered why dogs don't have a glans sticking out? Or horses? Or any other mammal that doesn't wear pants? This is staring you in the face.) Nothing is going to accumulate under your foreskin, because it unrolls every time you have an erection. That's the point, actually: The sensitive inner skin unrolls to cover the shaft of your erect penis; that's what makes it sensitive. If you are circumcised, what happens instead is that the hairy and insensitive skin from your scrotum and abdomen is pulled forward over the shaft instead. If you have a really strong erection this will actually hurt, as the skin is stretched too much; there is nothing to unroll. This is staring you in the face. If you have any experience of penises -- perhaps your own -- then you have actual evidence you can see with your own eyes. Have you ever had a sex partner who wasn't an American? I think these beliefs persist in the US largely because of insularity.
- auggierose 5y ago
  Lol. I am not American. It seems you are the ignorant one, making assumptions because you are too lazy to properly think about my arguments.
  - ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 5y ago
    He dedicated most of his comment to your arguments, which is why you're focusing only on the last two sentences. You've let yourself be humiliated again, and for what? Bizarre.
    - auggierose 5y ago
      Just saw this comment. Don't worry, I am not humiliated by random Internet people. Your names look a lot alike, is that coincidence?