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I live about half a mile from an expressway, and I can hear loud vehicles all night. My neighbor has a small pool with an aboveground pool filter than also hums

I live about half a mile from an expressway, and I can hear loud vehicles all night. My neighbor has a small pool with an aboveground pool filter than also hums all day. I’ve lived in condo buildings where you can hear a general “hum” of the city from down below. Genuinely, should I not be hearing these things? Are the turbines dramatically different?

shawnb576 5y ago
We live in Seattle, right under the flight path for our major airport. I hate it, its annoying enough to wake me up at times; one benefit of the early pandemic was much-reduced air traffic. There are trains a few miles away that are fairly loud when the weather turns cold. Also wakes me up at night. Noise pollution sucks, and if windmills are put up 500m from your house I think part of that process should involve the local homes is if all is that is true. OTOH we live in a noisy world, are windmills any different?
Angostura 5y ago
I think the low frequency and period nature could make it quite different.
schnitzelstoat 5y ago
But I guess the expressway would already have been there when you bought the property? The problem is making changes that will significantly affect nearby property values without the permission of the owners of those properties nor any compensation.
- boringg 5y ago
  So is this a property valuation issue or a quality of life issue?
  - koboll 5y ago
    To NIMBYs, there is no distinction.
  - rp1 5y ago
    Isn’t quality of life correlated with wealth? Isn’t most people’s wealth tied to their property value?
  - adamc 5y ago
    It doesn't have to be one or the other.
  - alistairSH 5y ago
    It can be both. I live by an airport. I knew it when I moved. No complaints from me. But, my house backs a golf course. It's zoned permanent green space. A developer bought the land at a discount (because it shouldn't be possible to redevelop it) and it sinking millions into buying local politicians to open the zoning up to condos and commercial use. Damn straight I write my local representatives about that. This isn't just putting a bigger building where one already existed - this is taking a giant green space and bulldozing it all for profit. I'm all for redeveloping underused plots and increasing density where buildings already exist. But removing all the parkland is a no-no to me.
alistairSH 5y ago
With good windows, you probably shouldn't hear them. I live under the approach to IAD (DC suburbs) and have jumbos passing overhead much of the morning. They're loud when I'm in my yard, but I barely hear them when inside. Same with the evening outbound jumbos - they don't pass overhead, but we can hear their engines run up for take-off if we're on the deck, but not in the bedroom. Same for the Dulles Toll Road. I can hear it outside, but inside it just blends with general suburban ambient noise. And both were here well before I bought the house, so I'd be a right dickhead to complain now (not that that stops many locals from doing so).
dogman144 5y ago
Agree. Maybe they can put a wind turbine at 1km vs. 500m from an occupied residence, there's certainly enough open space for that in many of the turbine-heavy areas. however - and i get all the behavioral econ that could back up why this is - but however, it really feels like we're going to NIMBY our way into total failure to address climate because of the 1,000 and 1 small inconveniences the changes will cause.
underscore_ku 5y ago
you need better windows! try triple pane windows

shawnb576 5y ago

We live in Seattle, right under the flight path for our major airport. I hate it, its annoying enough to wake me up at times; one benefit of the early pandemic was much-reduced air traffic. There are trains a few miles away that are fairly loud when the weather turns cold. Also wakes me up at night. Noise pollution sucks, and if windmills are put up 500m from your house I think part of that process should involve the local homes is if all is that is true. OTOH we live in a noisy world, are windmills any different?

Angostura 5y ago

I think the low frequency and period nature could make it quite different.

schnitzelstoat 5y ago

But I guess the expressway would already have been there when you bought the property? The problem is making changes that will significantly affect nearby property values without the permission of the owners of those properties nor any compensation.

boringg 5y ago
So is this a property valuation issue or a quality of life issue?
- koboll 5y ago
  To NIMBYs, there is no distinction.
- rp1 5y ago
  Isn’t quality of life correlated with wealth? Isn’t most people’s wealth tied to their property value?
- adamc 5y ago
  It doesn't have to be one or the other.
- alistairSH 5y ago
  It can be both. I live by an airport. I knew it when I moved. No complaints from me. But, my house backs a golf course. It's zoned permanent green space. A developer bought the land at a discount (because it shouldn't be possible to redevelop it) and it sinking millions into buying local politicians to open the zoning up to condos and commercial use. Damn straight I write my local representatives about that. This isn't just putting a bigger building where one already existed - this is taking a giant green space and bulldozing it all for profit. I'm all for redeveloping underused plots and increasing density where buildings already exist. But removing all the parkland is a no-no to me.

alistairSH 5y ago

With good windows, you probably shouldn't hear them. I live under the approach to IAD (DC suburbs) and have jumbos passing overhead much of the morning. They're loud when I'm in my yard, but I barely hear them when inside. Same with the evening outbound jumbos - they don't pass overhead, but we can hear their engines run up for take-off if we're on the deck, but not in the bedroom. Same for the Dulles Toll Road. I can hear it outside, but inside it just blends with general suburban ambient noise. And both were here well before I bought the house, so I'd be a right dickhead to complain now (not that that stops many locals from doing so).

dogman144 5y ago

Agree. Maybe they can put a wind turbine at 1km vs. 500m from an occupied residence, there's certainly enough open space for that in many of the turbine-heavy areas. however - and i get all the behavioral econ that could back up why this is - but however, it really feels like we're going to NIMBY our way into total failure to address climate because of the 1,000 and 1 small inconveniences the changes will cause.

underscore_ku 5y ago

you need better windows! try triple pane windows