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Even if it was 300$ it would still be a terrible phone. It's extremely inefficient and battery life is hilariously bad, the device itself is advertised as an ex

Even if it was 300$ it would still be a terrible phone. It's extremely inefficient and battery life is hilariously bad, the device itself is advertised as an extremely secure device but it is actually not secure at all, you can't even easily update the modem firmware. The company itself has a history of lying and their CEO is a habitual liar. The PinePhone, while not secure either, provides basically the exact same thing at a fraction of the cost (150$) and slightly weaker specs. Pine64 is now making a PinePhone Pro which is significantly faster than the Librem 5 at a fraction of the cost so why even bother with Purism at all?

fsflover 5y ago
> It's extremely inefficient and battery life is hilariously bad This is false: The phone has no suspend mode yet, and its battery life is 10+ hours. After it's implemented, it will be on pair with an Android: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#21-how-long-will-be-the-battery-life-of-the-librem-5-evergreen https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque.... > you can't even easily update the modem firmware This is also false: You can upgrade the firmware. https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#39-will-the-librem-5-get-proprietary-firmware-updates https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... > The PinePhone, while not secure either, provides basically the exact same thing at a fraction of the cost This is not the exact thing at all. Apart from huge differences in the performance [0], Pine64 does not develop any software and most Pinephone users are using Phosh developed by Purism. Linux phones can't be sustainable without professional developers, just with volunteers. Also, both phones are more secure than Android, depending on what you understand by "security": https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#43-how-secure-is-the-librem-5-compared-to-an-android-phone https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... [0] https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#16-how-does-the-librem-5-compare-to-other-linux-phones-pinephone-volla-phone-cosmo-etc https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

fsflover 5y ago

> It's extremely inefficient and battery life is hilariously bad This is false: The phone has no suspend mode yet, and its battery life is 10+ hours. After it's implemented, it will be on pair with an Android: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#21-how-long-will-be-the-battery-life-of-the-librem-5-evergreen https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque.... > you can't even easily update the modem firmware This is also false: You can upgrade the firmware. https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#39-will-the-librem-5-get-proprietary-firmware-updates https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... > The PinePhone, while not secure either, provides basically the exact same thing at a fraction of the cost This is not the exact thing at all. Apart from huge differences in the performance [0], Pine64 does not develop any software and most Pinephone users are using Phosh developed by Purism. Linux phones can't be sustainable without professional developers, just with volunteers. Also, both phones are more secure than Android, depending on what you understand by "security": https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#43-how-secure-is-the-librem-5-compared-to-an-android-phone https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... [0] https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#16-how-does-the-librem-5-compare-to-other-linux-phones-pinephone-volla-phone-cosmo-etc https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...