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I'll just cut this functional part off a baby because I don't like the look of it. Now if we were talking about earlobes, suddenly we would be barbarians, but

by JohnGB 5y ago

I'll just cut this functional part off a baby because I don't like the look of it. Now if we were talking about earlobes, suddenly we would be barbarians, but part of the penis is just fine. More genital mutilation of babies happens in America than any other country on earth. Think about that for a moment.

thefounder 5y ago
You don't get it...Abraham did it so it must be good. It's right there in the book. In a real life Utopia we would live in tribes like that old guy...eat what he eat and do the things he did...
lindseymysse 5y ago
It comes from Egypt: https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/history-circumcision-0010398 https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/h... It is about marking you as subservient. If you read anything about Evangelical Christian culture the single worst sin you can ever commit is demanding your autonomy. This grievous violation of our bodies is used to induce us into servitude. I reject the marks this wicked culture has given me.
- anewthrowaway 5y ago
  Bingo -- the whole thing about being "cleaner for living in the desert" or something is hooey -- every desert mammal has a foreskin; if it were a disadvantage evolution would've adapted that along with all the other adaptations that desert mammals have. That entire line is garbage and meant to support the subservience, exactly as you've said. A mother's strongest instinct is to protect her children, so the tribe taking a child and cutting his body marks him as belonging to the tribe rather than to the family. It proves, in plain view, that the familial bond is secondary, and individual autonomy serves at the pleasure of the group, not the other way around.
  - lindseymysse 5y ago
    I know this quite well -- the last thing the Evangelical Church ever did to me was chemically bald me at Billings West High School in 1998-99. I have horns, they mark me as outside their wicked culture. I'm proud to be outside of it.
- defen 5y ago
  > If you read anything about Evangelical Christian culture the single worst sin you can ever commit is demanding your autonomy. This grievous violation of our bodies is used to induce us into servitude Circumcision is explicitly not a Christian practice, though. It's done by many Americans (who happen to be evangelical) for cultural reasons, but the Christian Bible literally is explicitly against circumcision being done by Christians for spiritual or religious reasons.
  - redmonitor 5y ago
    Interestingly, the Book of Mormon (which essentially follows Jews who migrated to America 600 BC and became Christians after Christ visited America after his death) has a passage near the end after everyone becomes Christian where Jesus basically says "the law of circumcision is done away with" (Moroni 8:8 [0]) [0] https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/moro/8.8?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/mo...
  - lindseymysse 5y ago
    Your assuming evangelical culture is in anyway consistent or theologically sound.

by JohnGB 5y ago

thefounder 5y ago

You don't get it...Abraham did it so it must be good. It's right there in the book. In a real life Utopia we would live in tribes like that old guy...eat what he eat and do the things he did...

lindseymysse 5y ago

It comes from Egypt: https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/history-circumcision-0010398 https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-ancient-traditions/h... It is about marking you as subservient. If you read anything about Evangelical Christian culture the single worst sin you can ever commit is demanding your autonomy. This grievous violation of our bodies is used to induce us into servitude. I reject the marks this wicked culture has given me.

anewthrowaway 5y ago
Bingo -- the whole thing about being "cleaner for living in the desert" or something is hooey -- every desert mammal has a foreskin; if it were a disadvantage evolution would've adapted that along with all the other adaptations that desert mammals have. That entire line is garbage and meant to support the subservience, exactly as you've said. A mother's strongest instinct is to protect her children, so the tribe taking a child and cutting his body marks him as belonging to the tribe rather than to the family. It proves, in plain view, that the familial bond is secondary, and individual autonomy serves at the pleasure of the group, not the other way around.
- lindseymysse 5y ago
  I know this quite well -- the last thing the Evangelical Church ever did to me was chemically bald me at Billings West High School in 1998-99. I have horns, they mark me as outside their wicked culture. I'm proud to be outside of it.
defen 5y ago
> If you read anything about Evangelical Christian culture the single worst sin you can ever commit is demanding your autonomy. This grievous violation of our bodies is used to induce us into servitude Circumcision is explicitly not a Christian practice, though. It's done by many Americans (who happen to be evangelical) for cultural reasons, but the Christian Bible literally is explicitly against circumcision being done by Christians for spiritual or religious reasons.
- redmonitor 5y ago
  Interestingly, the Book of Mormon (which essentially follows Jews who migrated to America 600 BC and became Christians after Christ visited America after his death) has a passage near the end after everyone becomes Christian where Jesus basically says "the law of circumcision is done away with" (Moroni 8:8 [0]) [0] https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/moro/8.8?lang=eng https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/mo...
- lindseymysse 5y ago
  Your assuming evangelical culture is in anyway consistent or theologically sound.