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I believe the rate has been dropping steadily, though. I sure as hell didn't do it to my son. Not my right to make that decision for him.

lindseymysse 5y ago
Thank you. Even the Evangelical Christian's guy Paul said it wasn't necessary. It is about a deeply abusive culture rejecting the child's autonomy. It's roots was Egyptian Slave culture, and while I am marked as one of pharaoh's servants (or YHWH or Jesus's) I reject that position in the world. Thank you for your stand against this wicked violation of a child's autonomy.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's a particularly hellish direction for internet discussion to go, and also particularly avoidable, and we're certainly trying to avoid it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - lindseymysse 5y ago
    I think I should be allowed to talk about the pain this culture caused me.
    - dang 5y ago
      That's fine, as long as you do it within the site guidelines, which means eschewing flamebait, having curious conversation, and everything else described at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Some topics are not easy to talk about in the key of curiosity, but it's still doable, if you set that intention.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    I appreciate that you described a religious flamewar as hellish.
- FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
  There's a scene in Game of Thrones where the slavemaster makes a circular cut to rip off a slave's nipple. I hope people were smart enough to understand what this was a sanitized version of. Making a person a "slave to Jesus" is a total perversion though. The New Testament is very clear about that sort of thing. On this, you can challenge Evangelicals in their own language on their own ground.
thefounder 5y ago
You are brave and you are not alone in this world...HN is such a good breath of fresh air. It's hard for me to understand why people don't challenge the "norm" more often when they see it obviously flawed.
mhb 5y ago
the proportion of infant boys circumcised in the United States between 1979 and 2010 dropped from sixty-five per cent to fifty-eight, according to the C.D.C.
- anewthrowaway 5y ago
  And there's HUGE regional variation, the practice being very rare in the southwest and very common in the northeast. I can say from personal experience, I'm in the midwest and in my entire dating career, I've only encountered two women with prior knowledge of natural men, and both of them had spent time in Europe. So if the rate is indeed dropping here, it's happening in a younger segment of the population. (Good for them!)
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  I don't have a ready source, but I thought somewhere there were numbers for 2010-2020 and it was a more significant change. Like there has been a significant change in attitudes over the last 10 years.
invalidname 5y ago
I'm in Israel and didn't do it to my son. I was a bit nervous about that because well... Israel. He'll be ostracized for it... Then I talked with his kindergarten teacher and "warned" her about his penis so she'll be "ready". She looked at me dead in the eye and said: "This is Tel Aviv, half the boys here aren't circumcised". Lol. I guess I'm not too special.

lindseymysse 5y ago

Thank you. Even the Evangelical Christian's guy Paul said it wasn't necessary. It is about a deeply abusive culture rejecting the child's autonomy. It's roots was Egyptian Slave culture, and while I am marked as one of pharaoh's servants (or YHWH or Jesus's) I reject that position in the world. Thank you for your stand against this wicked violation of a child's autonomy.

dang 5y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's a particularly hellish direction for internet discussion to go, and also particularly avoidable, and we're certainly trying to avoid it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- lindseymysse 5y ago
  I think I should be allowed to talk about the pain this culture caused me.
  - dang 5y ago
    That's fine, as long as you do it within the site guidelines, which means eschewing flamebait, having curious conversation, and everything else described at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Some topics are not easy to talk about in the key of curiosity, but it's still doable, if you set that intention.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  I appreciate that you described a religious flamewar as hellish.
FooBarBizBazz 5y ago
There's a scene in Game of Thrones where the slavemaster makes a circular cut to rip off a slave's nipple. I hope people were smart enough to understand what this was a sanitized version of. Making a person a "slave to Jesus" is a total perversion though. The New Testament is very clear about that sort of thing. On this, you can challenge Evangelicals in their own language on their own ground.

thefounder 5y ago

You are brave and you are not alone in this world...HN is such a good breath of fresh air. It's hard for me to understand why people don't challenge the "norm" more often when they see it obviously flawed.

mhb 5y ago

the proportion of infant boys circumcised in the United States between 1979 and 2010 dropped from sixty-five per cent to fifty-eight, according to the C.D.C.

anewthrowaway 5y ago
And there's HUGE regional variation, the practice being very rare in the southwest and very common in the northeast. I can say from personal experience, I'm in the midwest and in my entire dating career, I've only encountered two women with prior knowledge of natural men, and both of them had spent time in Europe. So if the rate is indeed dropping here, it's happening in a younger segment of the population. (Good for them!)
rootusrootus 5y ago
I don't have a ready source, but I thought somewhere there were numbers for 2010-2020 and it was a more significant change. Like there has been a significant change in attitudes over the last 10 years.

invalidname 5y ago

I'm in Israel and didn't do it to my son. I was a bit nervous about that because well... Israel. He'll be ostracized for it... Then I talked with his kindergarten teacher and "warned" her about his penis so she'll be "ready". She looked at me dead in the eye and said: "This is Tel Aviv, half the boys here aren't circumcised". Lol. I guess I'm not too special.