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Again, you're asserting your personal preferences as universal fact and using absolutes to describe human behavior, which makes this less of a conversation and

by bryans 5y ago

Again, you're asserting your personal preferences as universal fact and using absolutes to describe human behavior, which makes this less of a conversation and more of a series of opportunities for you to repeat the same claims. You don't get to make the decision that Bejeweled and Candy Crush are bad games on humanity's behalf. You also don't get to decide which game mechanisms aren't enjoyable, especially when a billion other people enjoy them. You're effectively saying that a baseball player can't enjoy the act of swinging their bat or throwing the ball, just because it's not the end goal. This is obviously untrue for so many reasons, and I'm struggling to understand why you're so caught up on there only being one way to enjoy something -- and that way has to be your way. > The same reason family abuse is so effective - your infantile survival depends on your parents. If your parents are abusing you, you develop a liking for it, because your survival odds improve by doing so (abusive parent is better than no parent at all). You seek partners to repeat that behavior even if it makes you miserable, because brain chemistry. This is both disturbing and another attempt at using absolutes to compress the behavioral spectrum into a singular idea, and unsurprisingly, that idea matches your own personal views. Unfortunately, none of what you said in that paragraph is representative of any psychology book I've ever read, or of my own experiences, or of the experiences of anyone I know. So, if you'd like to link to some research backing up your claim, I'd love to read it. Otherwise, please avoid making outlandish assertions such as "if your parents abuse you, you will like it, and you will like it forever, and seek it out, and there is no other possible avenue for you." That's a movie you saw one time, not real life.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
> you're asserting your personal preferences as universal fact [...] You don't get to make the decision that Bejeweled and Candy Crush are bad games on humanity's behalf. You also don't get to decide which game mechanisms aren't enjoyable Yeah, I do. I've researched video games for decades on a scale and detail comparable to the cutting edge of any field. I'm a professional designer. My opinion is not a matter of preference, but expertise. > You're effectively saying that a baseball player can't enjoy the act of swinging their bat or throwing the ball, just because it's not the end goal. This is obviously untrue for so many reasons, and I'm struggling to understand why you're so caught up on there only being one way to enjoy something -- and that way has to be your way. Video games about baseball do not come with bat controllers to swing - you press buttons to play. So clearly swinging the bat is not the point of baseball, or baseball video games would include that aspect. > if your parents abuse you, you will like it, [...] and there is no other possible avenue for you. Your words, not mine. I didn't rule out other possible avenues, that's your mind betraying you with the very absolutes you accuse me of. I said it makes abuse more effective, and a simple thought exercise will lead you to the same conclusion. It's called Stockholm Syndrome, look it up. Widely recognized in psychology.
- Kaze404 5y ago
  I suggest you look more into Stockholm Syndrome. It is widely known, but not recognized. With what we currently know, it is a "contested illness" (as Wikipedia calls it) at best and useless media frenzy at worst.
- bryans 5y ago
  > Yeah, I do. This is all we need to know about you. Everything you've said comes from a place of extreme arrogance, while also possessing an immense ignorance on so many subjects. I'm done engaging with your psychopathy.
  - hypertele-Xii 5y ago
    Haha oh yes, now you're "done" engaging with me, out of personal choice and disdain for me of course, not the dozen rebuttals I just made to your falsehoods you are unable to address :)

by bryans 5y ago

hypertele-Xii 5y ago

> you're asserting your personal preferences as universal fact [...] You don't get to make the decision that Bejeweled and Candy Crush are bad games on humanity's behalf. You also don't get to decide which game mechanisms aren't enjoyable Yeah, I do. I've researched video games for decades on a scale and detail comparable to the cutting edge of any field. I'm a professional designer. My opinion is not a matter of preference, but expertise. > You're effectively saying that a baseball player can't enjoy the act of swinging their bat or throwing the ball, just because it's not the end goal. This is obviously untrue for so many reasons, and I'm struggling to understand why you're so caught up on there only being one way to enjoy something -- and that way has to be your way. Video games about baseball do not come with bat controllers to swing - you press buttons to play. So clearly swinging the bat is not the point of baseball, or baseball video games would include that aspect. > if your parents abuse you, you will like it, [...] and there is no other possible avenue for you. Your words, not mine. I didn't rule out other possible avenues, that's your mind betraying you with the very absolutes you accuse me of. I said it makes abuse more effective, and a simple thought exercise will lead you to the same conclusion. It's called Stockholm Syndrome, look it up. Widely recognized in psychology.

Kaze404 5y ago
I suggest you look more into Stockholm Syndrome. It is widely known, but not recognized. With what we currently know, it is a "contested illness" (as Wikipedia calls it) at best and useless media frenzy at worst.
bryans 5y ago
> Yeah, I do. This is all we need to know about you. Everything you've said comes from a place of extreme arrogance, while also possessing an immense ignorance on so many subjects. I'm done engaging with your psychopathy.
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  Haha oh yes, now you're "done" engaging with me, out of personal choice and disdain for me of course, not the dozen rebuttals I just made to your falsehoods you are unable to address :)