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I already spend all day sat at my desk. I was a “PC gamer” for years, but consoles are better for plug and play group/sofa gaming.

by shocks 5y ago

doikor 5y ago
Nothing is stopping you from connecting a PC to your TV to play games on your sofa.
- melff 5y ago
  yeah, I use my laptop as a mobile "console" with ps4 controllers. It's sometimes a PITA to find good games that with controller support and splitscreen, but they do exist
  - shocks 5y ago
    > It's sometimes a PITA to find good games that with controller support and splitscreen You’ve just demonstrated one of the reasons people get consoles.
    - melff 5y ago
      I know, what's wrong with that?
    - LinXitoW 5y ago
      How many games on console support splitscreen though? And you can always run this the other way around: All modern games that run on console and PC support controllers on PC. It's games that are very old that sometimes need a manual intervention. BUT consoles can't even play those games at all, so they basically have no controller support too, just with zero recourse.
- shocks 5y ago
  You’ve missed the point. I don’t want to setup and configure yet another computer.
  - doikor 5y ago
    There is not a whole lot of configuring to do. Just buy a prebuilt and install Steam and you are done. After that you install the games in steam, launch them from steam, buy them from steam etc. Basically the same experience as the dashboard on playstation or xbox.
    - shocks 5y ago
      You’re not going to convince me otherwise dude. :) I have consoles and a powerful gaming PC. I use both regularly. For me they’re good for different things. My Nintendo Switches get the most use.
    - maccard 5y ago
      > Just buy a prebuilt and install Steam and you are done. Once you buy a prebuilt machine you're losing a good chunk of the savings that people talk about when buying a PC. You also don't just install steam, you have to install drivers, and maintain an OS (which doesn't have a controller friendly input method) so you need a keyboard and mouse around for windows update time or driver update time.
    - Hamuko 5y ago
      >After that you install the games in steam, launch them from steam, buy them from steam etc. You mean you buy them from Steam, you launch a third-party launcher from Steam and launch your game through that launcher. I know that at least EA and Rockstar force you to use their launcher even if you buy on Steam and Microsoft also requires you to have Xbox stuff (at least for Forza Horizon).
- stef25 5y ago
  Attempted it several times, to run Plex etc. Remote control never works well. Having to keep a mouse & keyboard near the TV is a hassle. I'm sure it's perfectly possible but some people don't want another thing to configure and troubleshoot if that's their day job.
  - hvidgaard 5y ago
    I don't think it's easy to communicate the "Just Works(tm)" aspect of it. Any amount of messing around for any reason is too much. No matter how hard I've seen anyone try, they cannot match the console in that aspect. Pick up the controller, press a button, and off you go. You might get your PC setup to do almost that, but it will require tinkering with keyboard and mouse to update OS and install games. It's not what I want when I get home. The console occasionally have issues too, but far far less often than PC in my experience.
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    - shocks 5y ago
      > Pick up the controller, press a button, and off you go. 100% this. It gets even better when you realise that modern consoles support sleep too. You can go from "off" to "exactly where you were last night" in a matter of seconds.
- chrisan 5y ago
  Steam with a controller on your TV just isn't nearly as nice. I set it all up once (PITA on its own there) a few months ago after the steamdeck hype to show my wife some of the other games available in the world. It was kludgy at best and buggy at worst with some games. I say this as a primarily 95% 3+ decade PC gamer. The other 5% goes to Nintendo exclusives such as Zelda or Mario.

I already spend all day sat at my desk. I was a “PC gamer” for years, but consoles are better for plug and play group/sofa gaming.

by shocks 5y ago

I already spend all day sat at my desk. I was a “PC gamer” for years, but consoles are better for plug and play group/sofa gaming.

doikor 5y ago

Nothing is stopping you from connecting a PC to your TV to play games on your sofa.

melff 5y ago
yeah, I use my laptop as a mobile "console" with ps4 controllers. It's sometimes a PITA to find good games that with controller support and splitscreen, but they do exist
- shocks 5y ago
  > It's sometimes a PITA to find good games that with controller support and splitscreen You’ve just demonstrated one of the reasons people get consoles.
  - melff 5y ago
    I know, what's wrong with that?
  - LinXitoW 5y ago
    How many games on console support splitscreen though? And you can always run this the other way around: All modern games that run on console and PC support controllers on PC. It's games that are very old that sometimes need a manual intervention. BUT consoles can't even play those games at all, so they basically have no controller support too, just with zero recourse.
shocks 5y ago
You’ve missed the point. I don’t want to setup and configure yet another computer.
- doikor 5y ago
  There is not a whole lot of configuring to do. Just buy a prebuilt and install Steam and you are done. After that you install the games in steam, launch them from steam, buy them from steam etc. Basically the same experience as the dashboard on playstation or xbox.
  - shocks 5y ago
    You’re not going to convince me otherwise dude. :) I have consoles and a powerful gaming PC. I use both regularly. For me they’re good for different things. My Nintendo Switches get the most use.
  - maccard 5y ago
    > Just buy a prebuilt and install Steam and you are done. Once you buy a prebuilt machine you're losing a good chunk of the savings that people talk about when buying a PC. You also don't just install steam, you have to install drivers, and maintain an OS (which doesn't have a controller friendly input method) so you need a keyboard and mouse around for windows update time or driver update time.
  - Hamuko 5y ago
    >After that you install the games in steam, launch them from steam, buy them from steam etc. You mean you buy them from Steam, you launch a third-party launcher from Steam and launch your game through that launcher. I know that at least EA and Rockstar force you to use their launcher even if you buy on Steam and Microsoft also requires you to have Xbox stuff (at least for Forza Horizon).
stef25 5y ago
Attempted it several times, to run Plex etc. Remote control never works well. Having to keep a mouse & keyboard near the TV is a hassle. I'm sure it's perfectly possible but some people don't want another thing to configure and troubleshoot if that's their day job.
- hvidgaard 5y ago
  I don't think it's easy to communicate the "Just Works(tm)" aspect of it. Any amount of messing around for any reason is too much. No matter how hard I've seen anyone try, they cannot match the console in that aspect. Pick up the controller, press a button, and off you go. You might get your PC setup to do almost that, but it will require tinkering with keyboard and mouse to update OS and install games. It's not what I want when I get home. The console occasionally have issues too, but far far less often than PC in my experience.
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  - shocks 5y ago
    > Pick up the controller, press a button, and off you go. 100% this. It gets even better when you realise that modern consoles support sleep too. You can go from "off" to "exactly where you were last night" in a matter of seconds.
chrisan 5y ago
Steam with a controller on your TV just isn't nearly as nice. I set it all up once (PITA on its own there) a few months ago after the steamdeck hype to show my wife some of the other games available in the world. It was kludgy at best and buggy at worst with some games. I say this as a primarily 95% 3+ decade PC gamer. The other 5% goes to Nintendo exclusives such as Zelda or Mario.