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> They're right, its just a PC now. Its crazy, I can't think of anyone who wants a console that has a rough computer equivalent of a Ryzen 7 3700X, 5700 RT with

> They're right, its just a PC now. Its crazy, I can't think of anyone who wants a console that has a rough computer equivalent of a Ryzen 7 3700X, 5700 RT with ray tracing, shares 16GB GDDR6 ram, a blu-ray drive, with a 1GB NVME drive for $500 (in stock and not scalped). The way I view it is as paying a subscription for support, I bought a PS4 at launch and the fact it can play the newest Call of Duty at 60fps looking decent is absolutely worth the price. I'm not a PC gamer so I'm curious if a PC from 2013 that cost like $400 would hold up as well. Now the PS5 is out I view it as time to pay the next sub of $500 to have a guaranteed level of performance for the next console cycle

GhettoComputers 5y ago
You are paying for support in terms of the higher cost of the games, being locked to one online store and only approved playable games they allow, not being able to move it to another console generation, no replacable parts. A good PC in 2013 would have been 1.3x more expensive at launch (today it would be way more expensive to build a PS5 equivalent) but a PC would be able to play games better than a PS4 Pro (it is locked for GTA5 at 1080/30fps, while PC is always unlocked), have more graphics options, populate the streets with more NPCs, and tons of external niceties such as mods, you can use the PC for playing old games and emulators too. You can get 60FPS on desktop or more any time if you lowered the graphics like they do for consoles like PS4, but even the equivalent PC GPU runs a better than 30FPS at 1080. https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-Grand-Theft-Auto-V/3727/7714.0.0.0.0 https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-Grand-The... At the same time, I don't really recommend building a fancy gaming PC, most games are not exciting and having an APU for playing fun older games makes the most sense to me, I used my GPUs way more before, but since 2017 for Prey I haven't felt like I cared for them since I care to play AoE II and Starcraft more, and new games that are exciting are all indie, and don't need good graphics like into the breach, or Factorio don't exist on console. The PS store irritates me because they resell to me the same games again except on a different console, PC just runs everything. Heres the performance of an 3400G APU ($150 CPU+GPU on one chip. You can also upgrade the hardware if you see a good deal, unlike a PS4 where you'd have to buy a completely new one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0p5fbW5odY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0p5fbW5odY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxPtHuyPJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxPtHuyPJo I think you should consider a low end PC for gaming, its got tons of cool stuff you can run, they even cloned PS3's PT, you aren't getting better support for gaming by buying a console. https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/2/17519118/pt-remake-windows-pc-free-download https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/2/17519118/pt-remake-windows-...

GhettoComputers 5y ago

You are paying for support in terms of the higher cost of the games, being locked to one online store and only approved playable games they allow, not being able to move it to another console generation, no replacable parts. A good PC in 2013 would have been 1.3x more expensive at launch (today it would be way more expensive to build a PS5 equivalent) but a PC would be able to play games better than a PS4 Pro (it is locked for GTA5 at 1080/30fps, while PC is always unlocked), have more graphics options, populate the streets with more NPCs, and tons of external niceties such as mods, you can use the PC for playing old games and emulators too. You can get 60FPS on desktop or more any time if you lowered the graphics like they do for consoles like PS4, but even the equivalent PC GPU runs a better than 30FPS at 1080. https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-Grand-Theft-Auto-V/3727/7714.0.0.0.0 https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-Grand-The... At the same time, I don't really recommend building a fancy gaming PC, most games are not exciting and having an APU for playing fun older games makes the most sense to me, I used my GPUs way more before, but since 2017 for Prey I haven't felt like I cared for them since I care to play AoE II and Starcraft more, and new games that are exciting are all indie, and don't need good graphics like into the breach, or Factorio don't exist on console. The PS store irritates me because they resell to me the same games again except on a different console, PC just runs everything. Heres the performance of an 3400G APU ($150 CPU+GPU on one chip. You can also upgrade the hardware if you see a good deal, unlike a PS4 where you'd have to buy a completely new one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0p5fbW5odY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0p5fbW5odY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxPtHuyPJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yxPtHuyPJo I think you should consider a low end PC for gaming, its got tons of cool stuff you can run, they even cloned PS3's PT, you aren't getting better support for gaming by buying a console. https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/2/17519118/pt-remake-windows-pc-free-download https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/2/17519118/pt-remake-windows-...