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Can someone explain what are the consequences of this? Can this be patched? Does this mean cracking games will be possible?

causi 5y ago
If you disconnect your PS5 from the internet now, then yes, probably, in a few years. I would anticipate Sony using updates and e-fuses to prevent its use on any console that stays live.
- vermilingua 5y ago
  From the thread: > Can these be rotated easily? > No. We might get lucky.
  - AussieWog93 5y ago
    I'd be surprised. The PS3's keys were leaked too (by the same group, in fact), and Sony managed to put the genie back in the bottle in a pretty amazing way.
    - lilyball 5y ago
      Is there any reference to how Sony re-secured the PS3? All I'm aware of is the fact that they killed the ability to run Linux on PS3 because they couldn't re-secure it while retaining the ability to run a different OS.
      - mananaysiempre 5y ago
        Wait, wasn’t it the other way around? There was that fail0verflow slide about how the PS3 took unusually long to crack if you count from the release, but essentially the same time as other consoles if you count from the moment one couldn’t run other OSes on it.
        lilyball 5y ago
        If it was cracked after Linux was removed, then what was the reason for removing Linux? My recollection was that it was a security vulnerability.
        znpy 5y ago
        Some people started buying ps3 to build compute clusters. This was because the ps3 had a very strong processor made by ibm, using rhe powerpc isa. This meant that ibm started losing sales of their powerpc systems. So the story i know is that ibm "asked" sony to stop allowing linux on the ps3.
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        arghwhat 5y ago
        They started out by not including it in the Slim, then removed it for "security reasons" in a firmware update for the original consoles. I imagine they just decided not to bother with the new product, and then wiped it from the existing ones.
      - AussieWog93 5y ago
        I don't remember the specifics, but after the keys were leaked (this would have been about a year after OtherOS was removed?), Sony managed to both release a firmware update that disabled homebrew, as well as block new releases from running on the old, hackable firmware. That new firmware lasted for more than a year, too.
    - named-user 5y ago
      Efuses
- nothis 5y ago
  But wouldn't this allow to decrypt any future patch data and see exactly what was changed, thus allowing to bypass it?

causi 5y ago

If you disconnect your PS5 from the internet now, then yes, probably, in a few years. I would anticipate Sony using updates and e-fuses to prevent its use on any console that stays live.

vermilingua 5y ago
From the thread: > Can these be rotated easily? > No. We might get lucky.
- AussieWog93 5y ago
  I'd be surprised. The PS3's keys were leaked too (by the same group, in fact), and Sony managed to put the genie back in the bottle in a pretty amazing way.
  - lilyball 5y ago
    Is there any reference to how Sony re-secured the PS3? All I'm aware of is the fact that they killed the ability to run Linux on PS3 because they couldn't re-secure it while retaining the ability to run a different OS.
    - mananaysiempre 5y ago
      Wait, wasn’t it the other way around? There was that fail0verflow slide about how the PS3 took unusually long to crack if you count from the release, but essentially the same time as other consoles if you count from the moment one couldn’t run other OSes on it.
      - lilyball 5y ago
        If it was cracked after Linux was removed, then what was the reason for removing Linux? My recollection was that it was a security vulnerability.
        znpy 5y ago
        Some people started buying ps3 to build compute clusters. This was because the ps3 had a very strong processor made by ibm, using rhe powerpc isa. This meant that ibm started losing sales of their powerpc systems. So the story i know is that ibm "asked" sony to stop allowing linux on the ps3.
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        arghwhat 5y ago
        They started out by not including it in the Slim, then removed it for "security reasons" in a firmware update for the original consoles. I imagine they just decided not to bother with the new product, and then wiped it from the existing ones.
    - AussieWog93 5y ago
      I don't remember the specifics, but after the keys were leaked (this would have been about a year after OtherOS was removed?), Sony managed to both release a firmware update that disabled homebrew, as well as block new releases from running on the old, hackable firmware. That new firmware lasted for more than a year, too.
  - named-user 5y ago
    Efuses
nothis 5y ago
But wouldn't this allow to decrypt any future patch data and see exactly what was changed, thus allowing to bypass it?