I do prefer immutability too and think it should be the default for most programming, my original point was that for me, the trade-off of using clojure (small e

I do prefer immutability too and think it should be the default for most programming, my original point was that for me, the trade-off of using clojure (small ecosystem) instead javascript for single server CRUD apps is not worth it but as a language I'll take clojure over javascript any day.