Knee-jerk reaction reading this: "already a pain in the ass before even getting in the door". Again, knee-jerk reaction. What are you trying to accomplish? If

Knee-jerk reaction reading this: "already a pain in the ass before even getting in the door". Again, knee-jerk reaction. What are you trying to accomplish? If you want the notes badly enough to try to resort to laws to force them to give them to you, you may get the notes, but that may be the last time you'll interact with that organization. You probably will not work with them ever again. Are a few scribbles of someone drawing boxes, circles, smileys, and maybe even dicks worth it? If you're not after the notes, but want the notes in order to improve, then you may have a better chance of asking nicely for feedback to improve, or even asking nicely to get the very notes, who knows. If that is the case, then we have an "XY Problem": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem You want feedback to improve, (X), but you're asking on how to resort to CA law to request copies, (Y).