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In some countries, women have different last names than men do. Eg. in macedonia, traditionally a person would get their fathers name as their surname (so if t
by ajsnigrutin 5y ago
In some countries, women have different last names than men do.
Eg. in macedonia, traditionally a person would get their fathers name as their surname (so if the fathers name was "Petar", and the son was Dragan, the lastname would be roughly translated to "Dragan of Peter"). Because there are different forms for feminine and masculine words, The son would be named "Dragan Petrovski", and the daughter (Eg Marija) would be named "Marija Petrovska".
This tanslated to modern times means, that if "Marija Ilijevska" married "Dragan Petrovski", she would then be named "Marija Petrovska". Their sons surname would again be "Petrovski" and daughter "Petrovska".
So basically matching parents and their kids by their last names has to take in account the -ski or -ska form .
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- isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y agoIn old Polish there was also a special form of name for unmarried women, so for example: Jan Kowalski has a daughter, Anna Kowalska. When she is young, she is called Anna Kowalszczonka, Kowaliczka or Kowalówna depending on who you asked (and you can't reliably reverse these forms into the original name) When she is grown up, she is called Anna Kowalska. As it happens, the country was part of the Russian empire, so she's also called Анна Ковалска or Aнна Kовалская, depending on who you asked. When she marries Jan Kowal, she is called Anna Kowalowa or Anna Kowal. When Jan Kowal dies and she marries Wawrzyniec Słowacki, she is called Anna Słowacka. But her husband is from Austria-Hungary, so he's also called Laurentius Slowacki somewhere in his documents, even though he never uses this name for anything. Their son Stefan moves to Lithuania, but even though he's ethnically Polish, Lithuanian government requires him to have "Steponas Slovackis" printed on his documents.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoThis feels like the opposite of KISS principle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle I would recommend my daughter or son to keep their name even after marriage just to avoid paperwork hastle.
- DonaldFisk 5y agoAlso in other Slavic countries, e.g. Poland (-ski/-ska), Iceland (-son/-dottir), and sometimes in Scotland (Mac-/Nic-) and Ireland (Mac-, Ni-).
- eesmith 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_name gives an Icelandic example of Stefán Gunnarsson with children named Harpa Stefánsdóttir and Róbert Stefánsson. Björk's name is Björk Guðmundsdóttir, daughter of Guðmundur Gunnarsson and Hildur Rúna Hauksdóttir. These use the genitive -s followed by either -dóttir for girls or -son for boys. In Iceland, matching parents and their kids by their last names doesn't work that well.
- lemming 5y agoIn Spain, everyone has two surnames. Your first surname is your father's first surname, and your second surname is your mother's first surname. What this means is that in a family of mum, dad and kids, only the kids will share the same surname. We had a German friend who married a Spanish man, and she insisted on changing her surname to his when they got married since that was traditional for her. But for Spanish people this was really weird, since it sounded like they were siblings. I actually haven't asked them since they had kids, but I guess their kids must have his first surname doubled (which is not unusual - María Sanchez Sanchez just means that the first surname of both parents was Sanchez).
- tharkun__ 5y agoThis is the case in many countries. Nordic countries do this too (...-son and ...-dottir etc.) And FWIW, in Quebec, women are not allowed to take their husband's last name when they marry. They choose for the kids.
- kwhitefoot 5y ago> Nordic countries do this too (...-son and ...-dottir etc.) Not for a long time. Only Iceland does that now.