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It's probably worth reminding everyone who is new to the Mac or like most of us keep forgetting. Don't update your OS until at least half way through its update

It's probably worth reminding everyone who is new to the Mac or like most of us keep forgetting. Don't update your OS until at least half way through its update lifecycle e.g. for Monterey wait until 12.0.5. This happens every single year where there are annoying/serious bugs that takes a while to get fixed as the focus is on P1 showstoppers.

glogla 5y ago
I do that as well - I have work Mac and personal one, and I don't want to run them with different OS versions since Apple loves to change things between versions for no reason (last time they renamed "grab" to "screenshot" and needlessly reordered System Preferences) so using two versions of Mac OS is super annoying. And corporate takes a while to get all their crap running on a new version.
dwaite 5y ago
12.1 is already in beta.
- john_alan 5y ago
  Currently 12.1 has this issue though.
eyelidlessness 5y ago
I tend to stay 1-2 years behind. But that hasn’t been an option on new hardware since at least the early OS X days, if not maybe Classic MacOS.
- droidist2 5y ago
  Yeah, I recently updated to Catalina. I had to Google to find the download link, but it was still available from apple.com
  - latexr 5y ago
    You can download the full installers from the command-line: https://512pixels.net/2019/10/download-macos-installers-with-terminal/ https://512pixels.net/2019/10/download-macos-installers-with... Wikipedia shows the exact version number of the latest releases for each.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    Yup. I upgraded from High Sierra around the time Big Sur rolled out. To be honest, I’m probably not going to upgrade again at all until the new MBPs seem stable enough for me to buy. Nothing in Big Sur or Monterey seems compelling enough, apart from M1 support and access to iOS apps, for me to risk the disruption.
- yumraj 5y ago
  My primary is still in Mojave and I’ve been perfectly happy with it. Now, if I were to update my hardware that won’t be an option.
- jrochkind1 5y ago
  Still an option. I updated to 10.15 "Catalina" (released June 2019) about a year ago, and am still on it. I will probably soon-ish update to MacOS 11 "Big Sur" (released November 2020), but not yet the just-released MacOS 12 "Monterey".
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    > Still an option. I updated to 10.15 "Catalina" (released June 2019) about a year ago, and am still on it. On new hardware released with Big Sur? To be clear, what I was saying is not an option is “downgrading” new hardware to an older major version than the one it was released with.
    - jrochkind1 5y ago
      oh ok, I misunderstood!
wincy 5y ago
Hah well with the M1 air I got a few days ago, it helpfully won’t let me upgrade to Monterey! I’ve downloaded the 12GB update three times now and it fails each time it tries. I guess I’ll wait.
- sbr464 5y ago
  I was also having trouble installing final cut/logic. I ended up needing to delete a few AppStore cache folders, immediately resolved the issues. ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.appstore, delete contents /private/var/folders click through the various letters and delete any com.apple.appstore folder contents. reboot

glogla 5y ago

I do that as well - I have work Mac and personal one, and I don't want to run them with different OS versions since Apple loves to change things between versions for no reason (last time they renamed "grab" to "screenshot" and needlessly reordered System Preferences) so using two versions of Mac OS is super annoying. And corporate takes a while to get all their crap running on a new version.

dwaite 5y ago

12.1 is already in beta.

john_alan 5y ago
Currently 12.1 has this issue though.

eyelidlessness 5y ago

I tend to stay 1-2 years behind. But that hasn’t been an option on new hardware since at least the early OS X days, if not maybe Classic MacOS.

droidist2 5y ago
Yeah, I recently updated to Catalina. I had to Google to find the download link, but it was still available from apple.com
- latexr 5y ago
  You can download the full installers from the command-line: https://512pixels.net/2019/10/download-macos-installers-with-terminal/ https://512pixels.net/2019/10/download-macos-installers-with... Wikipedia shows the exact version number of the latest releases for each.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  Yup. I upgraded from High Sierra around the time Big Sur rolled out. To be honest, I’m probably not going to upgrade again at all until the new MBPs seem stable enough for me to buy. Nothing in Big Sur or Monterey seems compelling enough, apart from M1 support and access to iOS apps, for me to risk the disruption.
yumraj 5y ago
My primary is still in Mojave and I’ve been perfectly happy with it. Now, if I were to update my hardware that won’t be an option.
jrochkind1 5y ago
Still an option. I updated to 10.15 "Catalina" (released June 2019) about a year ago, and am still on it. I will probably soon-ish update to MacOS 11 "Big Sur" (released November 2020), but not yet the just-released MacOS 12 "Monterey".
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  > Still an option. I updated to 10.15 "Catalina" (released June 2019) about a year ago, and am still on it. On new hardware released with Big Sur? To be clear, what I was saying is not an option is “downgrading” new hardware to an older major version than the one it was released with.
  - jrochkind1 5y ago
    oh ok, I misunderstood!

wincy 5y ago

Hah well with the M1 air I got a few days ago, it helpfully won’t let me upgrade to Monterey! I’ve downloaded the 12GB update three times now and it fails each time it tries. I guess I’ll wait.

sbr464 5y ago
I was also having trouble installing final cut/logic. I ended up needing to delete a few AppStore cache folders, immediately resolved the issues. ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.appstore, delete contents /private/var/folders click through the various letters and delete any com.apple.appstore folder contents. reboot