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Good lord would I love to see the postmortem breakdown on that one

valleyer 5y ago
Having worked at Apple adjacent to the likely responsible teams, the relevant details are: overworked engineering teams, insufficient QA investment, and most of all a yearly macOS major release schedule that persists primarily to benefit the egos of Apple's upper management. Until you see a WWDC that doesn't announce a major release of macOS, expect more of the same. To any involved Apple folks here, I feel your pain, and I'm sorry.
- novok 5y ago
  What I don't get about apple, with a compensation policy that is less than the other big techs, because they can't get over the late 90s, team sizes that are usually smaller and being one of the largest market cap companies in the world, why don't they hire more?
  - bogwog 5y ago
    Hiring more people isn't going to make them more money. Improving their products/services isn't going to make them more money. Providing more value to customers isn't going to make them more money. Charging $300 for a screen replacement will make them more money. Selling bluetooth headphones with non-replaceable batteries will make them more money. Collecting taxes on developers will make them more money. etc etc
    - novok 5y ago
      They got popular because of their commitment to quality. "It just works" is and in many ways still is a key to their popularity. They whittle away at their "quality credit rating" the less and less they invest in these things, until their quality credit rating becomes low enough for a competitor exploit that and make them lose market share very quickly. It does make them money.
- city41 5y ago
  And this is why I have completely stopped using all Apple products. I used to be a massive Mac fanboy. But the software quality is absolute shit now and has been for at least the past 5 years. I don't understand why anyone puts up with it.
  - artificial 5y ago
    What do you use now?
    - city41 5y ago
      Android phone and Ubuntu on my desktop PC and ThinkPads.
    - smoldesu 5y ago
      I speak only for myself, but after Catalina I started transitioning to Linux and couldn't be happier. Being able to set up my entire computer with a single Github repo is a godsend for productivity, all it takes are a few keystrokes and I've got a fully configured desktop with all my dotfiles, keybinds and applications.
      - beebeepka 5y ago
        Care to explain what you are talking about?
      - threeseed 5y ago
        This isn't exclusive to Linux. With homebrew you can install most applications through the command line as well.
      - gizdan 5y ago
        I've been a Linux user for some 10 years, but have also had to use a Macbook Pro for a while due to work. There's nothing stopping you from fully configuring macOS through a single repository similar to how you do Linux. For a while my dot files were aimed at Linux (primarily), macOS, and Windows as I anticipated to have to use both macOS and Windows down the line, though I've since removed much of the multiplatform code.
- test001only 5y ago
  I have always felt Macs are awesome hardware bundled with poor OS. Apple needs to up their software quality.
- noduerme 5y ago
  I can see the business side of the permanent upgrade hype, constant new features, etc. But aren't we supposed to be reaching some kind of detente with Apple where they realize that power users drive the Mac market, and the release schedule should be built around hardware and stability, rather than endless retreads and new consumer features we'll never use? I'm still on El Capitan and pretty much everything since then looks like bloat to me.
nodejs_rulez_1 5y ago
Whatever that is, it's definitely not a binary tree inversion bug.

Having worked at Apple adjacent to the likely responsible teams, the relevant details are: overworked engineering teams, insufficient QA investment, and most of all a yearly macOS major release schedule that persists primarily to benefit the egos of Apple's upper management. Until you see a WWDC that doesn't announce a major release of macOS, expect more of the same. To any involved Apple folks here, I feel your pain, and I'm sorry.

novok 5y ago
What I don't get about apple, with a compensation policy that is less than the other big techs, because they can't get over the late 90s, team sizes that are usually smaller and being one of the largest market cap companies in the world, why don't they hire more?
- bogwog 5y ago
  Hiring more people isn't going to make them more money. Improving their products/services isn't going to make them more money. Providing more value to customers isn't going to make them more money. Charging $300 for a screen replacement will make them more money. Selling bluetooth headphones with non-replaceable batteries will make them more money. Collecting taxes on developers will make them more money. etc etc
  - novok 5y ago
    They got popular because of their commitment to quality. "It just works" is and in many ways still is a key to their popularity. They whittle away at their "quality credit rating" the less and less they invest in these things, until their quality credit rating becomes low enough for a competitor exploit that and make them lose market share very quickly. It does make them money.
city41 5y ago
And this is why I have completely stopped using all Apple products. I used to be a massive Mac fanboy. But the software quality is absolute shit now and has been for at least the past 5 years. I don't understand why anyone puts up with it.
- artificial 5y ago
  What do you use now?
  - city41 5y ago
    Android phone and Ubuntu on my desktop PC and ThinkPads.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    I speak only for myself, but after Catalina I started transitioning to Linux and couldn't be happier. Being able to set up my entire computer with a single Github repo is a godsend for productivity, all it takes are a few keystrokes and I've got a fully configured desktop with all my dotfiles, keybinds and applications.
    - beebeepka 5y ago
      Care to explain what you are talking about?
    - threeseed 5y ago
      This isn't exclusive to Linux. With homebrew you can install most applications through the command line as well.
    - gizdan 5y ago
      I've been a Linux user for some 10 years, but have also had to use a Macbook Pro for a while due to work. There's nothing stopping you from fully configuring macOS through a single repository similar to how you do Linux. For a while my dot files were aimed at Linux (primarily), macOS, and Windows as I anticipated to have to use both macOS and Windows down the line, though I've since removed much of the multiplatform code.
test001only 5y ago
I have always felt Macs are awesome hardware bundled with poor OS. Apple needs to up their software quality.
noduerme 5y ago
I can see the business side of the permanent upgrade hype, constant new features, etc. But aren't we supposed to be reaching some kind of detente with Apple where they realize that power users drive the Mac market, and the release schedule should be built around hardware and stability, rather than endless retreads and new consumer features we'll never use? I'm still on El Capitan and pretty much everything since then looks like bloat to me.

nodejs_rulez_1 5y ago

Whatever that is, it's definitely not a binary tree inversion bug.