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I don't think it's purely nerd-sniping. If your story is "at first you are bad, but then you get good", but your example is of a case where you did something fi

by twic 5y ago

I don't think it's purely nerd-sniping. If your story is "at first you are bad, but then you get good", but your example is of a case where you did something fine but then replaced it with something worse, that rather undermines the story.

emilsedgh 5y ago
> but your example is of a case where you did something fine but then replaced it with something worse They way I see it is that it was a case of something that wasn't working, then replaced with something that was working. I don't know what your metrics about "good" or "bad" are but eventually they got a solution that covered their use cases and the solution was good enough for stakeholders and that is "good".
adolph 5y ago
Chronology alone only progresses; progress sometimes regresses.
mwcampbell 5y ago
If even someone with Rachel's level of experience still doesn't know all the minutiae of database optimization, I think that just amplifies her point about the importance of mentoring novices.
- duxup 5y ago
  I recall reading a rant on another site about someone so upset they had to deal with clueless noobs at work. They then went on to list the errors that this brand new entry level employee had made when writing ... an authentication system ... I was more than a little shocked when I realized they were serious and hadn't realized the issue was sending the new entry level guy to do that job alone.
  - gonzo41 5y ago
    I would expect most seniors to want a set of eyes across their work doing any form of authk or z. If only to share blame :p
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      > authk I've always seen authn. Where'd you pick this usage up?
      - ncmncm 5y ago
        You need to distinguish authentication from authorization. "auth9n" and "auth8n" might be a slight bit too obsure for the purpose.
        afrodc_ 5y ago
        Generally authentication is authn and authorization is authz
        thaumasiotes 5y ago
        What a completely nonresponsive "response". To the best of my knowledge, no one has ever even tried to use auth9n or auth8n. But that's not where the 'n' in authn comes from. authn and authk are both equally distinct from authz.
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        ncmncm 5y ago
        You appear to be unfamiliar with the extremely common, and problematic, abbreviation "i18n" for "internationalization". For my part, I have not encountered "authn", "authz", or "authk" before. But prior discussion did not even mention the word "authorization", and that seemed worth bringing out in the open. So, not nonresponsive, just responsive to things you weren't personally interested in.
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- HahaReally 5y ago
  OR we could demand they get expensive irrelevant degrees and be geniuses at coding by the time they graduate with no relevant skills! Hey, in fact, let’s just do that instead. :)
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by twic 5y ago

emilsedgh 5y ago

> but your example is of a case where you did something fine but then replaced it with something worse They way I see it is that it was a case of something that wasn't working, then replaced with something that was working. I don't know what your metrics about "good" or "bad" are but eventually they got a solution that covered their use cases and the solution was good enough for stakeholders and that is "good".

adolph 5y ago

Chronology alone only progresses; progress sometimes regresses.

mwcampbell 5y ago

If even someone with Rachel's level of experience still doesn't know all the minutiae of database optimization, I think that just amplifies her point about the importance of mentoring novices.

duxup 5y ago
I recall reading a rant on another site about someone so upset they had to deal with clueless noobs at work. They then went on to list the errors that this brand new entry level employee had made when writing ... an authentication system ... I was more than a little shocked when I realized they were serious and hadn't realized the issue was sending the new entry level guy to do that job alone.
- gonzo41 5y ago
  I would expect most seniors to want a set of eyes across their work doing any form of authk or z. If only to share blame :p
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    > authk I've always seen authn. Where'd you pick this usage up?
    - ncmncm 5y ago
      You need to distinguish authentication from authorization. "auth9n" and "auth8n" might be a slight bit too obsure for the purpose.
      - afrodc_ 5y ago
        Generally authentication is authn and authorization is authz
      - thaumasiotes 5y ago
        What a completely nonresponsive "response". To the best of my knowledge, no one has ever even tried to use auth9n or auth8n. But that's not where the 'n' in authn comes from. authn and authk are both equally distinct from authz.
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        ncmncm 5y ago
        You appear to be unfamiliar with the extremely common, and problematic, abbreviation "i18n" for "internationalization". For my part, I have not encountered "authn", "authz", or "authk" before. But prior discussion did not even mention the word "authorization", and that seemed worth bringing out in the open. So, not nonresponsive, just responsive to things you weren't personally interested in.
    - 5y ago
HahaReally 5y ago
OR we could demand they get expensive irrelevant degrees and be geniuses at coding by the time they graduate with no relevant skills! Hey, in fact, let’s just do that instead. :)
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