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Wayland has won over xorg already. I have been using it for several months on two laptops and a gaming desktop. Then again, Linux won over Windows in 1996 for

Wayland has won over xorg already. I have been using it for several months on two laptops and a gaming desktop. Then again, Linux won over Windows in 1996 for me so perhaps I'm a bit of an outlier.

csdreamer7 5y ago
Screen recording does not work well in Wayland. Black screen with the mouse cursor. Keeps breaking in Chrome and not even working in FF for me with Google Meet. Haven't used Zoom in a while, but prob still broken. On Gnome Wayland, if you play Sonic Mania, you can feel the latency from when you push a button and Sonic jumps. From what I hear on Linux Unplugged, the latency also exists in other games. KDE Wayland is too broken to try.
zibzab 5y ago
Waylandis now default on all big distros. The war is over people. Even the xorg people are happy about this.
- LinAGKar 5y ago
  Only on GNOME on Mesa though.
pjmlp 5y ago
Nice definition of won for 1% of desktop market.
- darthrupert 5y ago
  Why should I care about its market share? How does that affect me?
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Because that is the whole point of the thread being discussed and System76 endeavours that started this whole thread. In this context Linux has won nothing, nada, niente.
    - mst 5y ago
      Given all he claimed was (a) "Wayland has won over xorg" (b) "Linux won over Windows in 1996 for me" (note the last two words) your response struck me as something of a non-sequitur. I mean, sure, Linux hasn't won out in the world, but I don't really see how that makes a difference to a comment about Wayland versus xorg within the population of people who are running Linux.
OJFord 5y ago
I think a large number (or I'm just projecting and should speak for myself!) of hold-outs are just cautious about the actual switch itself, or 'why fix what isn't broken', but that'd be a little strong for me - I am keen to switch, I find X frustrating to configure and use, it's just that since it is working, I'm nervous of breaking rather than switching and improving it! Hoping for Framework to start shipping here (UK) soon and I'll try it out from day one rather than (before) switching my desktop.

Wayland has won over xorg already. I have been using it for several months on two laptops and a gaming desktop. Then again, Linux won over Windows in 1996 for me so perhaps I'm a bit of an outlier.

csdreamer7 5y ago

Screen recording does not work well in Wayland. Black screen with the mouse cursor. Keeps breaking in Chrome and not even working in FF for me with Google Meet. Haven't used Zoom in a while, but prob still broken. On Gnome Wayland, if you play Sonic Mania, you can feel the latency from when you push a button and Sonic jumps. From what I hear on Linux Unplugged, the latency also exists in other games. KDE Wayland is too broken to try.

zibzab 5y ago

Waylandis now default on all big distros. The war is over people. Even the xorg people are happy about this.

LinAGKar 5y ago
Only on GNOME on Mesa though.

pjmlp 5y ago

Nice definition of won for 1% of desktop market.

darthrupert 5y ago
Why should I care about its market share? How does that affect me?
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Because that is the whole point of the thread being discussed and System76 endeavours that started this whole thread. In this context Linux has won nothing, nada, niente.
  - mst 5y ago
    Given all he claimed was (a) "Wayland has won over xorg" (b) "Linux won over Windows in 1996 for me" (note the last two words) your response struck me as something of a non-sequitur. I mean, sure, Linux hasn't won out in the world, but I don't really see how that makes a difference to a comment about Wayland versus xorg within the population of people who are running Linux.

OJFord 5y ago

I think a large number (or I'm just projecting and should speak for myself!) of hold-outs are just cautious about the actual switch itself, or 'why fix what isn't broken', but that'd be a little strong for me - I am keen to switch, I find X frustrating to configure and use, it's just that since it is working, I'm nervous of breaking rather than switching and improving it! Hoping for Framework to start shipping here (UK) soon and I'll try it out from day one rather than (before) switching my desktop.