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It looks great! But I’m having a hard time to understand your business model. A single, flat price may be cheap or expensive depending on customer’s revenue. I,

by rpgbr 5y ago

It looks great! But I’m having a hard time to understand your business model. A single, flat price may be cheap or expensive depending on customer’s revenue. I, for instance, run a very small publication and would love giving Wobaka a shot, but it’s steep price for my use case (one user, a dozen advertisers/customers per year). You said in a comment here you’re not chasing enterprise market, but flat prices also spooks very small business. Basecamp solved this by offering a limited version for free — which I use to managed the editorial part of my publication.

drikerf 5y ago
Thanks! What do you think would be a fair price for a CRM with email automations etc? I do think Wobaka is competitive in pricing, even for a solo businesses :). I like Basecamps offering and they've been an inspiration for choosing flat pricing!
- dotancohen 5y ago
  > ...with email automations etc Actually, your current $50/m is probably fair. But many users won't need these things, and for them $50/m is too expensive. That's why lots of software packages have tiers. I'd personally be very interested in a "personal plan" version that included CardDav sync so that I could use it with the contacts on my phone. But I'm currently using NextCloud for that, so you'd have to compete with free. If the CRM is decent (NextCloud is not a CRM) then I'd pay maybe a buck per month - not something you'll make money on and probably a support sink for many non-technical users.
  - ehutch79 5y ago
    Not every product fits everyone. It's ok if a certain product doesn't fit someones needs or budgets.
- rpgbr 5y ago
  Speaking for myself, email automations isn't a needed feature. As I said, I deal with a dozen or so clients per year, so it's perfectly doable manually, even considering all other things going on. I got instantly interested in Wobaka because of it's simplicity (take that as a compliment) and the direct to the point approach. I tested several CRMs last year, and the closest to my needs was Capsule CRM[1] — yet it's too much for my taste. So, for now, I'm running my relationships with customers with a mix of my calendar and a few txts. Surprisingly, it's been working quite fine, although slight weird. Maybe I'm asking too much, but I like Basecamp's idea: a free, barebones, and no-support plan for really small business. If the said business grow, the next, ultimate step is right there for a fair, flat price. I'd try Wobaka in a heart beat if it had a less featured free tier. Btw, Capsule CRM offers a free tier. It has basic features for up to 2 users and 250 contacts. [1] https://capsulecrm.com/ https://capsulecrm.com/

by rpgbr 5y ago

drikerf 5y ago

Thanks! What do you think would be a fair price for a CRM with email automations etc? I do think Wobaka is competitive in pricing, even for a solo businesses :). I like Basecamps offering and they've been an inspiration for choosing flat pricing!

dotancohen 5y ago
> ...with email automations etc Actually, your current $50/m is probably fair. But many users won't need these things, and for them $50/m is too expensive. That's why lots of software packages have tiers. I'd personally be very interested in a "personal plan" version that included CardDav sync so that I could use it with the contacts on my phone. But I'm currently using NextCloud for that, so you'd have to compete with free. If the CRM is decent (NextCloud is not a CRM) then I'd pay maybe a buck per month - not something you'll make money on and probably a support sink for many non-technical users.
- ehutch79 5y ago
  Not every product fits everyone. It's ok if a certain product doesn't fit someones needs or budgets.
rpgbr 5y ago
Speaking for myself, email automations isn't a needed feature. As I said, I deal with a dozen or so clients per year, so it's perfectly doable manually, even considering all other things going on. I got instantly interested in Wobaka because of it's simplicity (take that as a compliment) and the direct to the point approach. I tested several CRMs last year, and the closest to my needs was Capsule CRM[1] — yet it's too much for my taste. So, for now, I'm running my relationships with customers with a mix of my calendar and a few txts. Surprisingly, it's been working quite fine, although slight weird. Maybe I'm asking too much, but I like Basecamp's idea: a free, barebones, and no-support plan for really small business. If the said business grow, the next, ultimate step is right there for a fair, flat price. I'd try Wobaka in a heart beat if it had a less featured free tier. Btw, Capsule CRM offers a free tier. It has basic features for up to 2 users and 250 contacts. [1] https://capsulecrm.com/ https://capsulecrm.com/